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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:20 am 
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Ok so I am arrogant whatever, you believe what you believe and I still hate hunting and its not getting any better after all these comments and I do worry about my animals and am entitled to.

So you are a good hunter - fine, I am sure that it will be of great comfort to the rabbits and whatever else that you shoot.

The cancer comment - a real cheap shot. I have lost some of my family to cancer and how dare you bring that subject in to this because I love my animals and care for their welfare does not in any way detract from the suffereing of people with illnesses.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:26 am 
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what can i say... life is not so literal and there is always more to a story than one aspect and it is best to try to cut out all the other aspects or details to try to get to the point.

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BTW if the cats are registered to you then they are YOUR cats and your are responsible for them in every way. You are their owner.


Yes they are - youre right, I, in retrospect, am responsible for them and one of the things I would like to ensure for them is to see them walk freely around the area without fear with all that hunting going on, realisitically or not and in immediate ideal (without getting as far as considering the hunters rights at that point). There is enough danger out there for them without that too. To get this into perspective, I would make the road where I live ''no vehicles allowed'' except residents, also - (or a very minimum speed limit) in the ideal, incidentally - its not just hunters I would send to Timbuktu!! so don't take it too personally. :shock: :lol:


Thanks everyone for their replies and interest etc


I came here for some reassurance in the beginning - and have given my views and wishes (some are just ideals or hopes) - not everyone has the same views and the world would be a boring place if everyone did. It kind of turned into a bit of an attack/defense situation and then it sunk to the pits level on this thread. Very Reassuring! #-o
All the best for 2010 to all, the anti hunting people and good wishes to the pro hunters also.

We all gotta live. (meantime I will try to come up with who else can go on that Timbuktu trip! :lol: )

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:09 am 
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Do you not find it ironic, perhaps even comical, an argument on how some folks shouldn't be doing certain things, how they should be wiped off the planet, move to Timbuktu or whatever, coming from one that spends 20 hours a day cat-tending? .




and you mean what by saying that exactly? (Cat tending is better than animal killing in my book.)


At 20 hours a day, you obviously have sufficient business of your own to attend. And yet, here you are minding that of others. Is the toil of your own life not fulfilling enough already?

I'm not so much concerned with what you do or what others do that bother you. It's the number of hours you do it that struck me. 4 hours of sleep per night (if that much) I don't consider healthy under any circumstance.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:14 am 
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Well, again thanks for all your comments. Very interesting. personally I do wish that the sport of hunting does end one day. I did not expect to come across a whole wad of pro hunters but there you have it.
I have to honestly say it did not improve my opinion of hunting but no one needs my approval of course. it goes without saying. So I am arrogant or whatever - according to the replies..

Donnie McLeod - nasty and uncalled for comments = well done. I take it your a hunter...good advert
You would be first in line to lose your hunting license if you did something like that.

Wont be seeing ya because I will not be engaging with you again. I find you threatening.

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You find me threatening or you want to create the impression that I am threatening ?? HUUUMMM I remember someone named Hebert played this game in the past & then went onto another board bragging about how he was going to get Ohio Steve , Hunter 88 & Donnie Mac Leod banned. Would have worked to if he and a lady named Barb hadn't over played their hand. My comment about shooting the cats to relieve your stress levels is an obvious joke but Grizzly nailed it when he noted how you like to play the victim. Threatening!!! What a crock.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:10 am 
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what can i say... life is not so literal and there is always more to a story than one aspect and it is best to try to cut out all the other aspects or details to try to get to the point.

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BTW if the cats are registered to you then they are YOUR cats and your are responsible for them in every way. You are their owner.


Yes they are - youre right, I, in retrospect, am responsible for them and one of the things I would like to ensure for them is to see them walk freely around the area without fear with all that hunting going on, realisitically or not and in immediate ideal (without getting as far as considering the hunters rights at that point). There is enough danger out there for them without that too. To get this into perspective, I would make the road where I live ''no vehicles allowed'' except residents, also - (or a very minimum speed limit) in the ideal, incidentally - its not just hunters I would send to Timbuktu!! so don't take it too personally. :shock: :lol:


Thanks everyone for their replies and interest etc


I came here for some reassurance in the beginning - and have given my views and wishes (some are just ideals or hopes) - not everyone has the same views and the world would be a boring place if everyone did. It kind of turned into a bit of an attack/defense situation and then it sunk to the pits level on this thread. Very Reassuring! #-o
All the best for 2010 to all, the anti hunting people and good wishes to the pro hunters also.

We all gotta live. (meantime I will try to come up with who else can go on that Timbuktu trip! :lol: )

CL


I will play your game here.....
OK.... lets be clear...and honest....according your your first post/thread, you came here to find an AR group to harass/terrorize you neighbors (hunter). At the same time you were looking to find people that would support irresponsible pet ownership....which you would also find within AR groups.....or more likely you used "a story" to garner support and to further your agenda to harass/terrorize your hunter neighbors

Like I said, IF you truly care about your cats, then find "loving homes" for them. Allow them to have a safe, cared for life with loving owners instead of continuing to have them fight for survival in the wild and survival of the elements and extreme cold temps, etc. Actions speck louder than words....caring for your pets is more than lip service or making yourself feel good.

Sorry but most people here actually care about animals and take the responsibility of owning animals very seriously....it would be nice if you started doing so as well because it is the animals, that are entrusted to you and that you are responsible for that will suffer because you aren't and won't.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:49 am 
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Well, again thanks for all your comments. Very interesting. personally I do wish that the sport of hunting does end one day. I did not expect to come across a whole wad of pro hunters but there you have it.
I have to honestly say it did not improve my opinion of hunting but no one needs my approval of course. it goes without saying. So I am arrogant or whatever - according to the replies..

Donnie McLeod - nasty and uncalled for comments = well done. I take it your a hunter...good advert
You would be first in line to lose your hunting license if you did something like that.

Wont be seeing ya because I will not be engaging with you again. I find you threatening.

CL



You find me threatening or you want to create the impression that I am threatening ?? HUUUMMM I remember someone named Hebert played this game in the past & then went onto another board bragging about how he was going to get Ohio Steve , Hunter 88 & Donnie Mac Leod banned. Would have worked to if he and a lady named Barb hadn't over played their hand. My comment about shooting the cats to relieve your stress levels is an obvious joke but Grizzly nailed it when he noted how you like to play the victim. Threatening!!! What a crock.



Seriously, Donnie didn't threaten you. Get real and stop playing the victim. You live in 2 totally different countries and he is hardly going to fly all the way over there to kill a cat. But it is interesting that you have no problem making threats against others or looking for AR groups to enlist to do that for you.

You are the one that attempted to claim that you spent 20 hours caring for 11 cats.....that statement deserved an equally ridiculous response....and that is what you got.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:57 pm 
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You are the one that attempted to claim that you spent 20 hours caring for 11 cats.....that statement deserved an equally ridiculous response....and that is what you got.



I had a PM arrive from a person that used to post here that told me they had to wipe tears from their eyes they were laughing so hard at me offering such a solution ,to relieve Cat Lady's stressing out for 20 hours a day on those felines. Threatening??? :-k Not likely but that victim card is all to familiar. :-

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:58 pm 
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Ok so your bad joke had its day Donny. I am not adversed to a joke and you know it was in bad taste due to the subject. Anyway...I have to admit that if I were not me, I would probably have seen the funny side!!

A lot of what I have said has taken out of context. I am not a victim nor do I see myself as one, so stop the stupid sniping. Its getting silly.

Animals lover - if I wanted to tell you all of my daily business and life then you would have read it by now - I just usually cover the cat section of it and then add bits that are relevant later - it is not a matter of changing stories etc..

Having worked in cat shelters I know how difficult it is to find homes for cats and dogs here. So finding homes for semi ferals would be extremely difficult. They have a home, food an shelter etc with me anyway. Maybe it is cultural thing but here most people do not keep cats indoors and would not dream of it and I am very much frowned at that I do keep my 5 house cats indoors.

I do a lot of cat related chores over the space of a day as you might inagine and run my own business at the same time. I always end up awake too early and in bed too late and it is always a cat, its true - so if thats funny then I am glad you enjoyed the laugh :lol: - but I do work hard and true its not healthy. so ho hum... if I could not hack it, I would not do it.

I am going to start and official animals rescue place - and I suppose I have already started with cats (and hedgehogs also, sorry did not mention that before but it wasnt relevant as they are all asleep right now - so not changing my story just adding another part of it).

There is not much more to say than that really except - ta ta folks. GTG and do some cat stuff :lol:



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:32 pm 
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Ok so your bad joke had its day Donny. I am not adversed to a joke and you know it was in bad taste due to the subject. Anyway...I have to admit that if I were not me, I would probably have seen the funny side!!

A lot of what I have said has taken out of context. I am not a victim nor do I see myself as one, so stop the stupid sniping. Its getting silly.
Nothing you said was taken out of context. You said, what you said...we all read the exact same things.


Animals lover - if I wanted to tell you all of my daily business and life then you would have read it by now - I just usually cover the cat section of it and then add bits that are relevant later - it is not a matter of changing stories etc..
No the story is ever changing and evolving as it suits your need here. I don't want to know your daily life, don't need to, don't care to....but I do know it involves trolling boards and for the sole purpose of attacking hunters.

Having worked in cat shelters I know how difficult it is to find homes for cats and dogs here. So finding homes for semi ferals would be extremely difficult. They have a home, food an shelter etc with me anyway. Maybe it is cultural thing but here most people do not keep cats indoors and would not dream of it and I am very much frowned at that I do keep my 5 house cats indoors.
You feed them and allow then to come and go......other than that you have taken no responsibility for them or their care and safety at all. All you have attempted to do here is to attack your neighbors and hunters in general, for absolutely nothing.....but hey, anything instead of acting as a responsible pet owner, right?? Wouldn't want you to actually take care of your own animals......and being a responsible owner is more than feeding them and allowing them to sleep in your out building.

I do a lot of cat related chores over the space of a day as you might inagine and run my own business at the same time. I always end up awake too early and in bed too late and it is always a cat, its true - so if thats funny then I am glad you enjoyed the laugh :lol: - but I do work hard and true its not healthy. so ho hum... if I could not hack it, I would not do it.
Ummmm....no...there are just not of cat related chores, so no I can't imagine nor do I need to as I own several ferals. Don't know who you think you are fooling with that statement, other than to prove that you probably don't have any cats to begin with.

I am going to start and official animals rescue place - and I suppose I have already started with cats (and hedgehogs also, sorry did not mention that before but it wasnt relevant as they are all asleep right now - so not changing my story just adding another part of it).
Yea, right. :lol: Now that is funny.

There is not much more to say than that really except - ta ta folks. GTG and do some cat stuff :lol:
Yea, there is not much more to say unless you wan to make things look worse for you than they already do. Not many are buying your story to begin with.


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Grizzly

Ok so I am arrogant whatever, you believe what you believe and I still hate hunting and its not getting any better after all these comments and I do worry about my animals and am entitled to.

So you are a good hunter - fine, I am sure that it will be of great comfort to the rabbits and whatever else that you shoot.

The cancer comment - a real cheap shot. I have lost some of my family to cancer and how dare you bring that subject in to this because I love my animals and care for their welfare does not in any way detract from the suffereing of people with illnesses.


It's not a cheap shot at all. I brought it up simply to expose how pathetic your apparent self-pity is. I'll say it one more time: there are people in this world in a lot worse situations than you who do just fine keeping their peace of mind, so spare us thy self-serving victimhood.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:19 pm 
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what are you all like!?

Yes, I was a bit strong on the ''wipe'' bit - send them to Timbuktu or something, I spend about from 6am in the morning until 2am in the next morning of my day on cats, feeding them, cleaning their houses spending time with them, it takes a while to get around them all and when the last one is done I have to start all over again - my choice I know, and I am not complaining at all - it is a privilege to have them, but running after 11 cats can be quite a job when there are three different groups of them all in different places and I am awaiting a cat run to be built - which will make this sort of situation easier I should imagine.


You do not have a clue what I do or how much I care about my cats.

Basically, The hunters are a pest in my life and certainly the cats could do without them also - I don’t want them anywhere near my cats and I do wish they would vanish. I don’t agree with them if I am to be honest anyway.

Maybe human rights was the wrong description, but I simply want them not to be shooting here but have to put up with it and I am thinking why do I have to put up it - why can't they be the ones to go away instead - primarily, for my animals sake and safety and my piece of mind on their behalf - they are terrified when it starts even in the shed - I simply don’t want the shooting or any of it near us, I want them to go away, I can’t go away, I and my cats live here - I spend a lot of time worrying about the 2 cats whom I am trying to learn to stay in the outbuildings but have yet to achieve it - it’s not simple to do and yes it is stressful, to me anyway - because I am responsible for my cats and I want to make it as safe for them as I can. Hunters are just a nasty big spanner in the works of my life, (ok so plebs was a bit insulting - point taken). If I did not care I would hardly be worrying about it and I would not be here.

Also, I don’t think for one minute that the animals who are being shot at are not suffering, I have stood there and watched them in their last moments (poor creatures) and it is done for sport - or hobby whatever ... all the same... for someone’s pleasure or relaxation/recreation, what can be fun about scaring and killing animals like that?! Food is one thing but sport is quite another.

It is my opinion.

As for those % figures.. Put it this way, if many people witnessed it firsthand they would soon be against it when they see a little bunny run for its life and be shot at then dead, it is horrible & horrific. It is all very well saying something is this or that when one is not near to it but to see it is another story. Educated on seeing that - yes, educated on shooting animals - yes - done it, been there and decided no way, never again and do not agree.

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I spend about from 6am in the morning until 2am in the next morning of my day on cats, feeding them, cleaning their houses spending time with them, it takes a while to get around them all and when the last one is done I have to start all over again - my choice I know, and I am not complaining at all - it is a privilege to have them, but running after 11 cats can be quite a job when there are three different groups of them all in different places and I am awaiting a cat run to be built - which will make this sort of situation easier I should imagine.


Um, that's 20 hours a day. Be careful, you can go insane from sleep deprivation. I'm just sayin'. :-

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Thanks for your reply Grizzly and animals lover

AL: I did say in a later post that I had not used the correct wording in my previous post about some stuff (the human rights thing for instance was really not what I meant to say) but if you want to hang on to the literal of the wrong wording - then fine. I realise that you must be on a wind up - everything I have wirtten is true, I have removed some lines because I preferred to in hindsight as I did not want to share some info after all and added some stuff I thought I should have said but did not think of at the time, simple as that.

I do have hedgehogs, in little hibernation houses specially built, dotted around my land and they had special feeding before they hibernated. It was suggested by the animals welfare people here as an idea to help these animals and there were spec.s available online on how to build them. I had a number of rescue situations with those animals last year and was in liasion with a special hedgehog medical person who treats them and rehabilitates them. 2009 was hedgehog year here - where people were encouraged to work for their conservation so we embraced it whole heartedly.

Grizzly, I think one.s body would just shut down and make the person sleep before it got to that stage.


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Ok so I am arrogant whatever, you believe what you believe and I still hate hunting and its not getting any better after all these comments and I do worry about my animals and am entitled to.

So you are a good hunter - fine, I am sure that it will be of great comfort to the rabbits and whatever else that you shoot.

The cancer comment - a real cheap shot. I have lost some of my family to cancer and how dare you bring that subject in to this because I love my animals and care for their welfare does not in any way detract from the suffereing of people with illnesses.


It's not a cheap shot at all. I brought it up simply to expose how pathetic your apparent self-pity is. I'll say it one more time: there are people in this world in a lot worse situations than you who do just fine keeping their peace of mind, so spare us thy self-serving victimhood.



My peace of mind is quite fine although a certain percentage of ARA Vegans wish to create shame in my Soul because they view nature from a twisted perspective. Go figure !!! Their attempts at making we naturalists feel shame has little impact on victimizing us meat eating speciests because we know vegans are misguided speciests.

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"Special hedgehog medical person."

Oh, boy.... :-

Catlady, this sounds kinda silly. I'm assuming you're jesting....


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"Special hedgehog medical person."

Oh, boy.... :-

Catlady, this sounds kinda silly. I'm assuming you're jesting....



: Be gentle Iowanic!!! When Catlady got " Sonic the Hedgehog coloring book & decoder ring set," they made reference to how special it is, to be, a special hedgehoger. :roll: :mrgreen:

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