I am going to be a cordial as possible (not easy with humans who find enjoyment out of destroying innocent sentient being). Listen to these people laugh after they shoot the deer and wait for the animals to die. Some do the "high fives", "smack down", calls deer a "stud" some about to vomit from pure excitement similar to how serial killers get their "excitement" of killing humans. One even "praise the lord" ( I don't know what lord he is praising but I know my lord would never tolerate pain and suffering on innocent sentient life especially in the name of sports and trophy.
The "bowshot deer dies in 30 seconds" lie of heartless bowhunters.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs0i3D6iCuY*do put the volume up the clips came from several videos but just about every bowhunting videos and pretty much all sports wildlife killing videos are like this, humans cheering as animals suffer and die the kind of death not one of these cowards here would want to die.
Some of the wildlife serial killers has been at the other forum against Maryland bowhunting and now they practically live there because they have no life but to defend their disgusting "sports" of killing. I have asked this question but seems no one has an answer and do as best as possible to avoid answering. Dummie mclod would spam his copy and paste all over the forum after I post the question to push it towards the back because they cannot seem to give me an answer and now Iwonic writes the same "overpopulation" garbage that I have refuted and lets see if you can answer me this questions. You, "Iwonic" said
"We have a huge deer population in Iowa for one reason: thousands of acres of soybeans and corn fields."
If that is the case and we know abundance of food will create more deer all the more reason why killing will never work because of
#1 Compensatory Rebound Effect that even your own "deer management" and DNR knows about use it to their advantage. Now what is CRE you ask?
When there is a sudden drop in deer population like what happens in wildlife serial killing aka hunting there are more food availability and thus cause more fawn birth now watch how QDM (Quality Deer Management) uses CRE to create more fawn birth.
“By keeping the deer population below the carrying capacity of the available habitat, more forage (nutrition) is available per deer. Thus, does are healthier, reproductive success is higher and more does are able to carry two fawns. Ironically, this can result in a greater deer harvest each year. Depending on the relationship of the population and the carrying capacity, an „optimum sustained yield‟ can be achieved where a relatively high reproductive rate allows an abundant harvest each fall. With high-quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage of
doe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent). Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one. Because fawns are born at approximately a 1:1 sex ratio, more bucks may be born each year. Therefore, in some areas, you actually can increase the number of bucks born by shooting more does.” “Quality Deer Management: Guidelines for Implementation,” 6. Agricultural Extension Service, The University of Tennessee.
http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publicat ... pb1643.pdf (last accessed November 2008).
Here is another one from PA Game Commission
"Some people disagree with shooting antlerless deer; they reasn that protecting them -- thus maintaining a maximum breeding base -- will assure large number of antlered bucks because terrific numbers of deer will be born each year and button bucks wouldn't be harvested. But bear in mind, a smaller herd in balance with its habitat can produce as many fawns as an oversized herd on poor range. Does have fewer young when habitat quality is lacking" PA Game Commission
Hunting can even increase the severity of wildlife disease epidemic because of CRE
"One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss. Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics"
Now here is the doozy - they are using food plots and in some places that still allows supplement feeding to use that as well to grow more big racked deer and higher fawn birth for "fawn crops" and "fawn recruits"
"If you're not providing the local herd with enough of the right groceries for maximum antler and body size, as well as high fawn survival, you're not enjoying the full benefits of sound management." North American Whitetails
Such heavy utilization of food plots isn't theoretical; at North American Whitetail's Fort Perry Plantation in Georgia, agricultural crops make up 80 percent of the herd's annual diet. And under management, the deer density increased to more than five times that of natural carrying capacity - even as the health of the natural habitat steadily improved. Here's the key to why whitetails do so well when provided with the right food plots:" North American Whitetails
"We strive to maintain a deer herd that each year that can provide quality sport to more than a million hunters." PA Deer FAQ
"Other habitat management practices that can improve the quantity and quality of forage available to deer (thus increasing carrying capacity)" Quality Deer Management
"With high quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage of doe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent).. Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one." Quality Deer Management
There is a whole lot more but that is enough so I be waiting for your answer.
Now you said about "starvation" but how about in 2008 when 68,000 wounded deer were not recovered by hunters . How about the other states how many did they leave behind? How many wounded and crippled deer have bowhunters left behind? The "starvation" is the oldest excuses in the book and not one of you could care less about "starving" deer if you did you would be kill them rather then the big racked deer plus you are the ones killing deer's natural predators so you can be sure to have enough deer for yourself and deer natural predators such as coyote weed out the sickly and the starving where in sports killers case they kill the strong. Did you know that the size of whitetails has gotten smaller? Not the rack because hunters are too busy create large boned rack to wrap their grubby finger around it for God knows what reason. Did you also know that the size of certain species of bear gotten smaller too because of hunting ? They want to kill the biggest and the baddest looking bear so they can "show off" to other wildlife killers how "important" they are.
There goes that "food" excuses too which we know for a fact that majority of sports killers do not eat the carcass especially the male meat for the males are the ones with the rack and the older the male the tougher the meat right? That is why "hunters for hungry" exist for its easy to "give" something you would never eat yourself besides the fact that CWD and prions are deadly and why take that risk of eating meat that can be poisoned? Boiling and cooking does not kill prions. In fact prions are very hard to destroy. When they had to unearth a man who died from CJD (prions) no one wanted to even go near the body because its so contagious and can still live in a dead body. One day thousands of innocent human from the pantries are going to die from CWD related illness where holes start to create in the brain and its a horrible death all because hunters "give" the meat that they themselves would never eat. How about other diseases like TB and parasites because we know that the meat are not USDA inspected. Now the ones in Wisconsin in the CWD kill zone they are testing before "giving" to the pantries but still high risk. Especially the way the pantries are given ground up venison like in chili stew and all it takes is one sick deer to contaminate it all. I say that those who kill the animals should ALL eat them and let the pantries get good healthy food like vegetarian feeding the hungry. Or how about the fact that 150 billion pounds of edible food are wasted in America every year and with all that food going to the land fill polluting the environment why don't you all start a food salvage program and while you are at it with your food plots that you grow to create large deer herd wth big rack use that time and energy and all the valuable crops and create a rice, beans, corn, soy, potatoes, and all kinds of nutritious food for the hungry and YOU eat the venison. I am sure DNR would be very unhappy because no one would buy the tags if there is no place to dump the bodies. So with all the deer created for the hunting industry they are also causing high deer vehicle accidents as well. So many death comes from the hunting community and how about the recent ones were the young college student was shot mistaken for a deer? Imagine her mother hearing the news that she was killed by a hunter who thought she was a deer? or how about the child and mother on horseback shot as well mistaken for a deer or the dog shot mistaken for a wolf by bowhunter. ? You are all legalized terrorist not only to the lives of the animals but to innocent human lives.
This is why we need deer birth control because as Jay Kirkpatrick says "IT WORKS, AND IT WORKS WELL" and "60% deer herd reduction" and its now EPA and FDA approved for field implementation even before though it was not approved yet IC was able to be used but the hunting industry did not want it because obviously their intention is NOT for long term deer herd reduction and could care less about human death from DVA's . Well, now I am off to bed and hopefully tomorrow my post will be posted and every question will be answered .
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