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 Post subject: Hello from Filmmaker
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:26 pm 
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Hey, everyone!

I am an animal rights and vegan activist, and have been most of my life. I started my life as a 2nd generation vegetarian, and now have been vegan for half my life. It is now my intention that at least 75% of my diet be raw from now on. For those who know me ... among other things, I am the Writer and Director of Saints & Angels which was the first (and probably only) fictional feature film that shows the A.L.F. as heroes.

It seems to me, and others, that it is time that vegetarians, vegans, and animal rights activists be portrayed in a positive light in feature films and TV programs.

Let's face it, there are millions of vegetarians and vegans around the world, and many of us are insulted by being portrayed in films and TV shows as pale, 85 pound hippies that look sickly and need a murdered farm animal's carcass and dairy products to feel better. Environmentalists and animal rights activists are usually portrayed as kooks, too.

A bunch of vegetarian film and video cast and crew members have gotten together and now we plan on changing all that. We need your support. Obviously no one wants to encourage or be involved with any criminal activity and yet they still want to do whatever they can to promote animal rescue, welfare and rights. Helping us by becoming a Member of www.GreenLightFlix.com will continue to give us the financial support we need to produce the films WE want to see. All Members will get a FREE DVD and other really cool stuff.

Imagine heroic films like 'Rocky,' dramatic films like 'The Breakfast Club,' romantic comedies like 'Serendipity,' and more --- except the main characters are obviously animal rights activists and vegetarians or vegans. That is what we plan to do. The positive examples will do more to promote our positive lifestyle than all the horrific slaughterhouse videos on You Tube.

Thanks to financial gifts from vegetarians, vegans, and animal rights activists, we have already begun production on two positive, uplifting, educational, and fun documentaries (V-Day and Guy Going Green). We also have two feature films in development and a series of "cooking videos."

I don't want to go against forum protocol and post any more information here unless it is requested, but if anyone has any ideas for scripts, or has completed scripts, or supports this idea, please let me know. We are on the same team and our intentions and expectations are high.

Imagine what the world would be like in the future if everyone is vegan and non-human animals are liberated.

Let's make a positive difference.

Keep up the great work!

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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:32 pm 
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So this is basically, 'feel-good' propaganda you're planning on making?

Not interested.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:35 pm 
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like rocky....let's see...

"Yo, Adarian, no mo eggs?" "No, Rocky sweets, you mustn't eat eggs, it's so very horrid and yucky.' 'Adarian, I'm a fighter, I beat people up fo a livin'. Ain't no live chicks in eggs...' 'Stop making sense and eat your tofu.'


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:42 pm 
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Wow, that is a really negative assumption and reply. Thankfully there are plenty of people who are interested in doing anything legal and positive that promotes animal rights and veganism.

If someone saw ROCKY and during the course of the film it was revealed that he was a Vegan, would that be considered "feel good propaganda?" No. Instead, just as many people would still love the film, and perhaps a bunch of others might be inspired to go vegan, too.

The fact is, most people will NEVER watch slaughterhouse footage. Heck, Animal rights activists don't even want to watch anymore. So are you suggesting we just keep on producing that and nothing else? That makes sense to you?

We are producing a documentary right now that is similar to SUPER SIZE ME. I think it is safe to say that more people may have been disgusted and turned away from McDonalds as a result of that than they would have b watching footage of the factory farms where the cows come from.

It is important to appeal to as many people as possible. That is not "feel good propaganda" it is a strategy. It is one of many strategies.

Wow, we have been swamped with tons of positive e-mails and calls and replies. I guess sooner or later we were going to run into someone who was going to make an unsolicited assumption and be negative. Congrats. You are that person.

No need to reply. There is enough negativity in the world. There is absolutely no need for anymore.

Friendly regards,

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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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I seem to have touched a nerve.

I'm shooting closer to the mark then even I first thought.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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Iowanic... shoot somewhere else, this is not an area of this forum for debate.

It is, however, a part of our site for welcoming people... so, welcome GreenLightFlix!


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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I am an animal rights and vegan activist, and have been most of my life. It is now my intention that close to 100% of my diet be raw from now on. I have had friends and employees of mine who have been threatened with their life by A.L.F. activists and one was burned to death in her home above her pet store after an animal rights raid.

It seems to me, that it is time that rodents and other small animals be portrayed in a positive light in feature films and TV programs. As such I will be raising animals for pets to make and fund the operation of a facility safe from animal rights activists where I can safely raise animals as animal actors.

Welcome fellow film maker. I hope we can get along in spite of our differing experiences with ALF.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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Ann Vole wrote:
I am an animal rights and vegan activist, and have been most of my life. It is now my intention that close to 100% of my diet be raw from now on. I have had friends and employees of mine who have been threatened with their life by A.L.F. activists and one was burned to death in her home above her pet store after an animal rights raid.

It seems to me, that it is time that rodents and other small animals be portrayed in a positive light in feature films and TV programs. As such I will be raising animals for pets to make and fund the operation of a facility safe from animal rights activists where I can safely raise animals as animal actors.

Welcome fellow film maker. I hope we can get along in spite of our differing experiences with ALF.


So, let me understand. You think there might be an ALF action against you because you are raising animal actors? I am just trying to clarify.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:20 pm 
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Hello, GLF.

Sorry for budding in, but I wish to apologize for my remarks previous in this intro. I can be a bit of a cynic sometimes. I may not agree with you on some things, but there was no reason for my being so rude.

Sorry. :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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okeedokey. No sweat. :wink:

Now if you can just donate $1.00 to our productions ....... we'll be all set (lol) \:D/


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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GreenLightFlix wrote:
So, let me understand. You think there might be an ALF action against you because you are raising animal actors? I am just trying to clarify.
When I see zoos and pet stores being the targets because they are easier then the fur farms and ranches and resulting in a decrease in the quality of life for the animal's involved specifically due to the extra security for the animals' safety, I view all militant animal rights efforts to be counter to my goal of improving the lives of the animals. For the attacks on two pet rodent breeders I have talked to, they show that pet rodent breeders like I intend to be are also on militant AR groups' target lists. I hope to be considered a hard target and they do not try to attack my facilities but I cannot risk a successfull attack because the animals WILL suffer no matter what. Cutting break lines on animal transport trucks is another action I have seen so my vehicles are being built with undercarrages to make mechanical tampering imposible (without setting off alarms and bringing a portable metal cutting torch). They may not know that the pets and the animal actors I am going to be raising are treated with a better life then any wild or pet of their species is ever treated elsewhere (and likely do not care) but a facility with millions of animals in it WILL be targetted. Also note that I usually do not mention ALF in particular because most attacks do not have any group laying claim to the attacks (but did this time to paralell your post)

Also note that my main push is to try to develop ways of comunicating with the animals in a complex abstract way to prove scientifically that animals have emotions and thought processes in a similar level to humans. I can use the animal actors as an excuse for such research (easier to get them to do the right actions on the first few takes if you just tell them what to do) but once achieved and documented, it can change the scientific community view on animal research and animal industry husbandry practices very quickly. If I can get animals to communicate via the internet with the general public, that can change the world's view of animals too. Imagine if you can ask the animals what THEY prefer for food and housing. That goal (talking animals) may not happen but I can still design systems for better rodent raising and provide the instructions for labs and fur farms to improve the lives of those animals. I can also train the pet rodents to do tricks and litter training via the computer so people having them as pets actually interact with them to provide a fun love-filled house-pet life for them instead of just living in a cage.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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If possible, you should try to find and read the book MY LIF EIN THE WILD by legendary Hollywood Producer Ivan Tors (Flipper, Sea Hunt, Gentle Ben, Daktari, Namu the Killer Whale, etc.

Through kindness and understanding, he almost single handedly changed the way animals were trained and viewed by the entertainment industry ... at least those he was responsible for. He actually went to college to study zoology and biology, but ended up as a screenwriter for MGM in the 1940s and 1950s, and then started producing his own projects.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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GreenLightFlix wrote:
If possible, you should try to find and read the book MY LIF EIN THE WILD by legendary Hollywood Producer Ivan Tors (Flipper, Sea Hunt, Gentle Ben, Daktari, Namu the Killer Whale, etc.
Thanks! I could only find "Namu, my best friend" DVD at my library but there are lots of cheap copies of "My Life In The Wild" on Amazon. I really liked the "Gentle Ben" movie and the "Flipper" TV show.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello from Filmmaker
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I wonder how the film-making has turned out.


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Hello GreenLightFlix. Nice to meet you. A very warm welcome to the forum.

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