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This show was on last night, with a group of experts and what they thought would happen and the most pressing problems facing the USA. The consensus was that economic hardship from a variety of economic mistakes would hit first, then water scarcity, with overpopulation effects driving the problems and being next , then pollution effects, especially with climate change. Collapse was inevitable, but there was a general feeling that survivors would help one another.
Did anyone else watch the program? What are your thoughts on a plan of action to stop the collapse of our country?

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

Hi, I saw Prophets Of Doom.
I agree with their outlook. I think that the collapse of our way of life is inevitable and it's already started. Peak oil - which many laughed off just a short time ago - is now being discussed openly by governments and military. There is nothing (to my knowledge) in the works that could replace oil and keep the modern world chugging along. The global economy depends on infinite growth and on a planet with finite resources that is just not going to happen.

Have you seen the lecture by Prof Albert Bartlett on exponential growth? It's well worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

Here is a great Earthship video with links to many others;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBMiDKxqQKs

"We need a billion of these, now!" Mike Reynolds
To me, eco homes must have as many of these characteristics as possible;
1)Low wood use, 2)a lot of thermal mass,3) use of indigenous materials,4) solar thermal gain, 5)solar power and/or wind power, 6)water catchment and/or recycling/minimal use,7) use of recycled materials, super insulation and 9) interior year around gardens that grow food.
The Earthship is the "Holy Grail" of eco-homes because it can have all 9 characteristics. Others can be designed to have all nine also, like straw bale homes with trombe walls and interior gardens. An A frame could have up to 7 out of 9, and a dome maybe up to 6 out of 9 with difficulty.

7B next month, headin' toward destruction of epic proportions;
http://www.cosmosmith.com/human_population_crisis.htm

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

I saw the program as well. People are abusing the rights they have, mainly but not limited to having children. I dare say your proposal based on IQ be revised such that those under 120, perhaps 130, not be allowed to procreate. In the future, I'll be really interested to see what happens to those who today smoke, drink, and consume themselves into a state of such pathetic health (yet more rights abused) they become slaves to establishment med-pharma and/or worse yet, entitlement-minded morons.

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