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The spending by states shows they were spending other people's money to hire contractors for state projects or programs. I know Colorado is in trouble financially from over-spending, and the USA for sure.
The 22 million Americans out of work right now corresponds to the amount of illegals employed under the table or with phony IDs. There are several more million collecting various government hand outs that were meant for citizens but given, through corruption, to illegals. The first post shows Americans standing in line for jobs vacated by leaving illegals.
Other posts show the laws broken, and fines for violation. I think a certain amount of Americans could be employed as bounty hunters to collect the fines from violators, and others to drive the buses for deep Eisenhower type deportation, and more on the borders and coasts. This would energize the economy while paying off the debt with the collected fines and taxes paid by legit Americans working again.
The USA certainly doesn't need more people when the max sustainable is between 50 and 200 million depending on standard of living.

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Other than the point cutting spending does not seem to create jobs?

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If we're dealing in points that hinge on that which seems, then I suppose so. Sorry I thought the pool was a little deeper.

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TANG SOO!

No, without seeing more of the data and the confidence levels of the statisitics it is hard for me to make hard claims. Economics are always a little wonky since there are so many factors in play and most everything is subjective. There may be cases where cutting spending would create jobs, as anything is possible.

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Oops. So sorry. I completely overlooked the link and only saw the extremely busy graph. I could have just as easily read the darn article. My bad!

Anyway, the same site includes a few other interesting articles. One about how Goldman Sachs took a $10 billion dollar bailout and is now EXPORTING 1000 jobs to Singapore, and another about there being no historical evidence to show that not taxing big business leads to more jobs.

No probelm. It did promote more discussion on the data.

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Phooey then!

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TANG SOO!

You could try the statistical analysis of tea leaf reading as a discussion point ......

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

Or better yet you could discuss the Jupiter System of Force and how it causes global warming and earthquakes with Wardengineering on TES ..... talk about pool depth, mosquito larva cannot survive in that pool.

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“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

It'd be about as good, but I do like tea now. Don't tempt me. Problem is, the coffee pot's always full and I'm just lazy that way.

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TANG SOO!

I so rarely drink coffee, but then I keep a stash of Earl Grey at work and in my travel case to be sure. I will tear up some Southern sweet tea in the summer .... and spring .... and fall ..... and most of the winter too.

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Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

I should probably lay off. After 3 or 4 mugs of it, breakfast, and my flintstone vitamins, I feel awesome. BP's running 143/93 though and that's with meds to keep it low. Gonna have a meltdown!

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TANG SOO!

My wife used to have trouble with the automatic BP cuffs in the hospital because they could not read her BP. It was always so low they had to do it manually until the auto cuffs improved. Now with some of her meds it lowers her BP but even the autocuff we have at home picks it up. Mine is usually borderline around a white coat and just under when I do it at home. The 80 mg aspirin seemed to bump it up a little for some reason. I would have thought the opposite would have happened but who knows.

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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

It's weird. I'm looking through my past readings right now. When my heart rate is good, hovering around 70, but my BP is up, like now. My BP goes down, my heart rate shoots up to 90-100. Wow, here's one where my heart rate was 159 bpm.

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TANG SOO!

Yeah. Fear creates and promotes a certain kind of irratinality. It constricts.