Snowy123 wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
No, it just shows that your interpretation of the completeness of this paper's conclusions is not correct.
Assuming the effect is hidden and not nonexistent, which is a problem in claiming certainty.
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I think my interpretation is very much correct, that a CR-Influence on Climate Change has been found in the paper, as they clearly state in the conclusions.
Hardly, as the difference between "an effect" and "THE major effect" is huge.
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More tests need to be conducted, since the CR-Climate Hypothesis is still relatively new. However,
there is no doubt that there is a CR-Effect on the climate, with the FDs showing the most pronounced effects on the atmospheric aerosoles.
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With the new results just published in the recognised journal Geophysical Research Letters, scientists have succeeded for the first time in directly observing that the electrically charged particles coming from space and hitting the atmosphere at high speed contribute to creating the aerosols that are the prerequisites for cloud formation.
The more cloud cover occurring around the world, the lower the global temperature – and vice versa when there are fewer clouds. The number of particles from space vary from year to year – partly controlled by solar activity. An understanding of the impact of cosmic particles – consisting of electrons, protons and other charged particles – on cloud formation and thereby the number of clouds, is therefore very important as regards climate models
“Before we can say how great the effect is, it’s clear that our results must be verified – just as more measurements and model computations need to be made. However, we can already reveal with no doubt whatsoever that there is an effect.”
Given the study found the effects of the CR on the formation of aerosols to be insufficient to explain the connection you claim is supported.
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressRel ... 5.11E.htmlCrucially, however, the CLOUD results show that sulphuric acid, water and ammonia alone – even with the enhancement of cosmic rays - are not sufficient to explain atmospheric observations of aerosol formation. Additional vapours must therefore be involved, and finding out their identity will be the next step for CLOUD.
“It was a big surprise to find that aerosol formation in the lower atmosphere isn’t due to sulphuric acid, water and ammonia alone,” said Kirkby. “Now it’s vitally important to discover which additional vapours are involved, whether they are largely natural or of human origin, and how they influence clouds. This will be our next job.”