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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:05 pm 
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THRIVE ..... a movie/doc that explains free energy and the suppression of alternatives energy sources by oil companies. It involves all kinds of issues and cover ups related to keeping control of energy sources. Nassim Haramein, Buckminster Fuller, sacred geometry and the flower of life, crop circles, UFO's, etc. It is very interesting and I would be interested to hear what others think of it!

It is about 2 hours long though, so get comfortable, ..... but you better hurry, (but don't rush!)

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Saw that video last week . Very interesting. It has alot of 'information' which I have believed for years, rightly or wrongly.


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Compiled conspiracy theories do not tend to support each other when the actual facts are considered.

For example, who issues the money in reality as opposed to the claim in the video:

"But the Federal reserve board have no power whatever to regulate the rates of interest that bankers may charge borrowers of money. This is the Aldrich bill in disguise, the difference being that by this bill the Government issues the money, whereas by the Aldrich bill the issue was controlled by the banks...Wall Street will control the money as easily through this bill as they have heretofore."(Congressional Record, v. 51, page 1447, Dec. 22, 1913)

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I am not retired and I do understand a it about economics, but there are competing theories in economics which are very difficult to generate evidence.

The third world debt question is failry simple and complex at the same time. The debt is split about evenly between private institutions and institutions such as the World Bank. The private based loans are to the "upper" rank of the third world countries as the "lower" ranks will not qualify.

The problem with the debt is not just the debt but the reasons for it. The economies have often been mismanaged and the money spent on projects with dubious return or outright appearance of fraud. There are stories of condo purchases in Miami, for example. This means all talk of debt relief is moot on a general level and can only be considered on a case by case system. Even then the accounting becomes an issue as the debt is an asset that will impact the bank if it is removed.

There are ways countries can get their debt forgiven, but that entails an actual workable economic plan. For example, Mexico was in a very bad debt situtation about 20 years ago after the interest rate increases of the 1980s, but they were able to work out a plan.

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The Us debt is a combination of sources, including the government itself. The Social Security fund, for example, does not contain the money for Social Security because all above a certain level is "loaned" to other governmental funds per act of Congress. Of course that could be considered a loan from the individuals who have paid into the fund, but the US government was the trustee and will be responsible for repayment.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank_Group

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