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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/3 ... 41435.html

LONDON, Jan 30 (Reuters) - The world is running out of time to make sure there is enough food, water and energy to meet the needs of a rapidly growing population and to avoid sending up to 3 billion people into poverty, a U.N. report warned on Monday.

As the world's population looks set to grow to nearly 9 billion by 2040 from 7 billion now, and the number of middle-class consumers increases by 3 billion over the next 20 years, the demand for resources will rise exponentially.

Even by 2030, the world will need at least 50 percent more food, 45 percent more energy and 30 percent more water, according to U.N. estimates, at a time when a changing environment is creating new limits to supply.

And if the world fails to tackle these problems, it risks condemning up to 3 billion people into poverty, the report said.

Efforts towards sustainable development are neither fast enough nor deep enough, as well as suffering from a lack of political will, the United Nations' high-level panel on global sustainability said.

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"Even by 2030, the world will need at least 50 percent more food, 45 percent more energy and 30 percent more water, according to U.N. estimates, at a time when a changing environment is creating new limits to supply."
Grain production per capita has been going down since 1986, ocean fisheries which have been providing 60% of the protein needs to 3 billion are below their last 10% and will be mostly gone by 2035, water is already critical in many areas and will get worse even without more population because of aquifer depletion and AGW effects. Needs for energy unmet except by more pollution and expense of money they do not have.
3 billion in abject poverty by 2030? Of course, and starving or out of water, too. Dying, or migrating, as collapses begin, region by region, country by country, progressive and cascading, with attendant riots and violence, lawbreaking including theft and murder. By 2050 or before, a point is reached where deaths outnumber births, in an accelerating manner.
People should have gone to one child families, all compost fertilizers, and water recycling and efficiency rules in the 1970s and to non-CO2 polluting power and steady state environmental economics in the early 1990s or before. No, instead they head toward a crash followed by "thermageddon" (like the book) and extinction of their own species along with most others.
There's shortages already, in all but people. Overshoot has been extant since 1930 at the latest. Since then, until the 1980s, everyone who had more than two kids caused it, and since the 1980s, everyone who had more than one. The Gordian knot of greed, overpopulation and stupidity, in a Juggernaut(again, see the book) taking all, even the good, with it. :-({|=

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I watched this for 2 minutes and 442 kids were born, 161 people died, and 86,000 tons of CO2 pollution were put out by human activity.
http://www.breathingearth.net/

In a clock where human existence is 24 hours for the ~43K years of homo sapiens, that is two seconds per year. We've got less than 40 years left before the majority will be dead or dying off. One minute and twenty seconds or less.
We will not know if people made it through the coming bottleneck of 200K years. Will they have learned to live sustainably?? Or will they be extinct? :-({|=

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what say guys!! day by day, minute to minute and second to second the level of pollution is raising because of human activities that are violating the environment!! there is no control on pollution as well as population!!


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We need to be like China and put a 1 child limit as well as subsidizing green energies.

China makes over 33% of all solar panels in the US, compared to 13% in 2008.

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Maybe allowing gay marriages could be given carbon credits (lol)


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Just in case the math is not self-evident think of the total production as 100 tons worldwide. That means there are 50 tons of soybeans produced and 50 tons of everything else. The three countries produce 77 tons, which if they also produced the 50 tons of everything else leaves 27 tons of soybeans. Soybeans are grown for the oil not livestock feed. Livestock are fed the by-product after the oil has been removed.

If they are claiming the "everything else" is destined for livestock you still have a 27% of soybeans being produced, which is clearly not what could honestly be called "nearly all".

Epic fail factually.

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