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A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, I worked for a Fortune 100 company, which also had a sister division in our offices. This sister division did a lot of custom bearing manufacture along with some other functions. One of the sales engineers and I had a running discussion on which of us had the stupidest requests for products. A couple of his more memorable examples are:

One customer wanted a specialized bearing built to demanding engineering specs to fit into a heavy prototype design. The problem was if the engineer had increased the diameter of the bearing housing by 1/32nd of an inch they would have been able to use a standard design with slightly better specifications and 1/10th the cost. It would also have improved the maintenance capacity because it was a standard component. The engineer had designed everything from the ground up and wanted everything to be that design. The production costs were much higher as were the maintenance costs, but they got what the engineer wanted ... not what they needed or should have wanted.

Another case required a specific manufacturing process, which was illegal in the US but the product was going into the defense industry and could not be manufactured outside of the US. He went around with them for months before management told them to either use what was legal for them or go elsewhere. They tried to go elsewhere because he got the same quote form different sources for over a year afterward before they finally stopped. This would have been easily solved by the use of a different and better process if the customer had listened to the advise of the product engineers.

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Geez Wayne, that's pretty cruel of you! However, math is math and the numbers show something has to be done as you cannot spend more than you bring in. So, somehow, some way, benefits have to be cut, more revenue brought in, or maybe medical costs and insurance costs need to be re-examined and be curtailed in some way.

I have the invoice my parents got from the hospital when I was born. My mother had a two day visit and the total cost of delivery, nursing care, and room came to $47 and some change. Yeah, I'm older that dirt as that was 1953, but back then people didn't need major medical insurance except for catastrophic diseases or accidents. My parents didn't have medical insurance and paid the bill out of pocket. Both insurance and medical costs in this country is outrageous.

Now, from the standpoint of medical care of the elderly, we also have to rethink some of our priorities. I'm not saying an old person should go off in some corner and die due to illness but should we be paying hundreds of thousands of dollars on an 80year old patient who has prostate cancer? Something that may prolong his life for three to six months?

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I have blue Cross Blue Shield for medical insurance for myself and my employees. For a time we switched carriers about every year because we could bypass the double digit increase in premiums, but that became a thing of the past a few years back. Now we bump up the deductibles and such to keep the increases below 15% per year.

A week or so ago we spent the evening at the symphony where Blue Cross, our non-profit insurance carrier group, was thanked for the several thousands of dollars donated directly and even more in the form of matching funds for that event. Instead of keeping the costs at a minimum they give huge bonuses and donate to the charities. I am not opposed to donations but BCBS, but not when their costs for our insurance have more than tripled in the past 20 years.

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