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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:56 pm 
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From what I gather about Obama, his phonied up COLB was done sometime before, or when, he was a Senator, and the Long Form Birth Certificate was phonied up between the election and when it was displayed. Grooming appears to have started as early as his trip to Pakistan on his Indonesian passport when he was a college student getting help as a foreigner. More later from his pastor and friends.


It had to have started much earlier for the "phonied" birth announcement to have been thought of. That takes the conspiracy even farther past the bounds of reason than some of the other claims.

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Plus, you can not discount the brainwashing by being a muslim youth in Indonesia. Soros is the biggest (anti-American) figure.


Nor can you discount the brainwashing by the xenophobic conservatives who push this BS .....

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As far as the deal with George Washington, the previous Presidents were called "President of the United States in Congress Assembled", serving generally a year during the Revolutionary War, and left out of the history books on that technicality.


Not really. The history books I have read clearly speak of the Continental Congress and the office of President of that Congress. Of course the term limit was not set until much later, which caused some confusion, but since the office was mostly ceremonial it was not a really big deal. The current leadership in either house of Congress has more powers than the initial Prsident of the CC had.

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... ficate.asp



On CNN’s State of the Union today, Trump claimed that Obama’s grandparents planted the announcement to obtain welfare benefits:

TRUMP: The grandparents put that [birth announcement] in [the newspaper] because obviously they want him to be a United States citizen because in those days, people were much more proud than they are today unfortunately for being a United States citizen.

So they wanted him to be a citizen of the United States, for that purpose, and also for hospitalization, for welfare, for this, for that, for all the other assets you get from being a United States citizen. So there are a lot of very smart people who say that is routinely done and that was done by his grandparents. [...]

CROWLEY: I will tell you we’ve checked with both these papers early on — not to the latest when you brought it back in the headlines — but the fact is that the hospitals reported this information to the papers, and the papers printed it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:29 pm 
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;


If born in Hawaii the above makes him a natural born citizen

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;



(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

If born in Kenya this would make him a natural born citizen. Born to a woman who was a citizen and who lived in the US from age 14 to 16


(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

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