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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:06 pm 
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It says "Agenda 21 takes away private property ownership, single-family homes, private car ownership, individual travel choices, and privately owned farms." so as an anarchist (don't like anybody telling me want to do or not to do), I am against anything that restricts me in any way no matter what nice words they use. My only desire for "green" stuff is to not need to pay taxes via utilities and via income tax to make the money to pay those utilities. The only way to get out of paying rent and buying food is to own my own house and micro-agricultural ventures. I am fighting with the government now to let me continue to insure and drive my uniquely designed vehicles. If I want to raise animals, I cannot be sharing the building with anyone else so forget multi-family units. (I think I covered all those items lol). It does not matter if they are communists or capitalists or fascists, if they want to control me, I am against them.

That being said, I always am suspicious of criticism so check things out myself:
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/index.shtml


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:14 pm 
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I remember the old treehugger forum. Sustainable development is an oxymoron in this age of overshoot.
I don't like the general UN take-over scenario. I don't like globalization, or NAFTA, or the invasion by Mexico.
I do like the idea of population quality and quantity control and reducing fossil fuel emissions 90% by 2020 to try to prevent runaway methane turnover. I like the idea of thinking globally, and acting locally, but I am Nationalist American to the core.
I can't see banning sustainability itself, and things that will help reach that goal. Replenish the Earth is tantamount to a command from God in Genesis. That means put back the equivalent of what you took out and don't pollute faster than the biosphere can absorb it or you can clean it up. If people obeyed this commandment, depletion rates would equal replenishment, regeneration, and recharge rates. Pollution would equal absorption rates and the atmosphere would be back to 275ppm of CO2. I would like that, and future generations would definitely like that, if they had a voice in our conscience like they should for any moral person.
I already live a low carbon lifestyle and had only one child, but no one is going to take away my freedom, property, or my guns. :mrgreen: =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:10 pm 
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FreeTree wrote:
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Glad I don't live in Alabama...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:05 am 
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"Defined these days as “sustainable development,” Agenda 21 seeks to transform humanity with “new global ethics.” At the most basic level, beyond the soft words like “sustainability” and “eco-friendly environments”, Agenda 21 takes away private property ownership, single-family homes, private car ownership, individual travel choices, and privately owned farms."
Well, "sustainable development" is a stupid oxymoron and should be banned. However, "sustainability" and "eco-friendly environments" are not harmful, and for the general good. Of course the rest of the so-called Agenda 21 things mentioned are bad.
Weed out the bad and keep the good. I guess that is just too hard for the dumbed down state to do. #-o :razz: [-X =; =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:23 pm 
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It is upsetting that A21 gets such bad press in the US.

I guess readers have a choice,

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

or

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91856


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