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We have a team of scientists showing poor correlation fo GCR's to warming.


http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_dat ... s-2-4.html

Empirical associations have been reported between solar-modulated cosmic ray ionization of the atmosphere and global average low-level cloud cover but evidence for a systematic indirect solar effect remains ambiguous. It has been suggested that galactic cosmic rays with sufficient energy to reach the troposphere could alter the population of cloud condensation nuclei and hence microphysical cloud properties (droplet number and concentration), inducing changes in cloud processes analogous to the indirect cloud albedo effect of tropospheric aerosols and thus causing an indirect solar forcing of climate. Studies have probed various correlations with clouds in particular regions or using limited cloud types or limited time periods; however, the cosmic ray time series does not appear to correspond to global total cloud cover after 1991 or to global low-level cloud cover after 1994. Together with the lack of a proven physical mechanism and the plausibility of other causal factors affecting changes in cloud cover, this makes the association between galactic cosmic ray-induced changes in aerosol and cloud formation controversial. {2.7}


Of course this is where Snowie likes to be. Because its controversial!

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The deniers are snow, banana, and the plumber(flogger?) from TES. Deniers, to me, are as bad as spammers.
They are like the dunces in school who drag down the whole class. Howdy Doodies for the fossil fuel lobbies.

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What kind of idiot are you?? Didn't you see the plant hardiness zone change thread????
Go here, read every link, then come back educated, goodbye!
http://climatecommunication.org/new/art ... /overview/

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Snowy123 wrote:
renewable guy wrote:
http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii31 ... cefig5.jpg

If this photo will open up I think we would find that Snowies scenario of increased sun energy and increased co2 will make things even warmer than they are now. CO2 is very well understood. Even from the context of co2 is a weaker ghg than H2O, co2 is the stabel gas in the atmosphere and drives the average level of H2O in the atmosphere. We have our past level of climate thanks to co2. More is better doesn't go well with me during this heat wave we are having now. With increased co2 emissions rather than less, warmer gets ugly real fast.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/radiation.html

So please explain why Relative Humidity levels have been decreasing while the lapse rate feedback appears to be positive?



[color=#408000]Are you avoiding absolute or specific humidity?
Lapse rate is a negative feedback. It appears that lapse rate will slow down the ghg effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_ch ... Lapse_rate
Lapse rateMain article: Lapse rate
The atmosphere's temperature decreases with height in the troposphere. Since emission of infrared radiation varies with temperature, longwave radiation escaping to space from the relatively cold upper atmosphere is less than that emitted toward the ground from the lower atmosphere. Thus, the strength of the greenhouse effect depends on the atmosphere's rate of temperature decrease with height. Both theory and climate models indicate that global warming will reduce the rate of temperature decrease with height, producing a negative lapse rate feedback that weakens the greenhouse effect. Measurements of the rate of temperature change with height are very sensitive to small errors in observations, making it difficult to establish whether the models agree with observations.[57][58]




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