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The Peggy Mason in the video clip is just commenting on someone else's work, not her own; and as someone employed by "Science" one hopes not a person who has written a book about New Age claptrap, and another one on a certain orangeclad guru for the adoring feeble-minded Westerners, and collector of Rolls Royces and sprinkler of "magical" ash (fat lot of good that does to poor people - couldn't he sprinkle coins instead or were these on spent on his lavish lifestyle?). And can we please stop quoting that speech by Chief Seattle which is a fraud almost from beginning to end? See http://www.fs.fed.us/eco/eco-watch/ew920221 , for instance. If you want to believe in angels and New Age fairies, fine. But they are not welcome in a serious discussion. And of course humans are more evolved - but again, the mistake is made to equate "more evolved" with "superior". Evolution has no such purpose, It happens. That's all.


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I've have to disagree with you about Noah too. However much of that story you take literally, if Noah was spiritually evolved enough to have received prophetic warning he would not have resorted to eating flesh. When you reach a certain stage in your spiritual evolution and you recognise the unity of all life, you're no more inclined to want to eat animal flesh anymore than you would human flesh!

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It was a combination of various floods passed down in wildly inaccurate oral histories. Sure, the beginning interglacial ocean rise(9-11KBP) was looked at by many around the world as a "flood," to the old especially. The numerous breaks of the ice dam that caused the effects from Idaho through Washington State to the Columbia estuary area. The break of the Lake Agassiz ice dam was also witnessed(the Americas had been invaded by waves of Solutrians, 5 genotypes developed, incl. 'Indians' and 'whites' who broke off 35KBP and went to the glacier edge zone north, coming to N.Am. 998-1003AD, from northern Spain, France and western Germany, for at least 23K years, first over sea in the Atlantic, ice floe and island hopping, and later Pacific island hopping, 16-14K BP, then the land bridge opening 12K BP). The flooding from the rock dam break at the Bosporus(NOT Gibraltar) and filling of the Black Sea rapidly was Noah's flood(6,600BP), passed down and embellished in oral history. Various tsunamis were floods to many other cultures. Some flood stories were combined, like from the Santorini volcanic eruption that destroyed the Minoan civilization 3,620BP, which became combined with the Black Sea flood, and also gave rise to Atlantis legends.
The idea that humans were not evolved as omnivores is a garbage theory of some vegetarians. Humans have eaten meat for as long as they have existed, 7 million years for proto humans and 100,000 years for more modern humans. Some tribes had the majority of their diets in meat while others it was a majority of nuts, grains, fruits, and vegetables. Some had better nutrition than others, and with it better disease resistance and health. The mono diet tribes tended toward lower development and health problems, vitamin and or mineral deficiencies.

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All around the world human coastal villages and more were inundated after the beginning of this interglacial epoch. It is too bad that most are ruined by being covered in organisms, decayed, eroded away with currents, or covered in sand. The huge steps off of Japan are interesting. Seemingly hand carved and older than sand buried cities in Egypt and elsewhere.
Still, the anthropological history lost is tremendous. The Black Sea is different in that its deep covered ruins are more preserved through special conditions**, not just fast flooding. Also, they are not a picture of what was going on in Asia at that time, for example.
When you think of it, even on land, preservation is a rarity. Fossils and other evidence preservation took special circumstances to form and we certainly have not dug up all of them, or those buried in the ocean sediments. Subduction processes have erased much. While it is amazing the facts and pictures of past life and conditions that we do have, it is tempered by knowing it is incomplete and probably never will be complete.
**Anoxic conditions;
http://disc.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/education ... ones.shtml

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