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That murder might be OK?
No way.
What proof do you have that this is the correct perspective?
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Do you think that it might be OK?
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I'm assuming nothing about any deity.
Fosgate wrote:
Indeed you are. You're assuming that they would stop bad things from happening if indeed they existed, were all-powerful, and benevolent.
I'm making no such assumption about any such entity.
You still can't seem to grasp that my stance is that no such entity exists thus I can't make assumptions about it.
And you are still making assumptions about my assumptions. Not very scientific, that.
Fosgate wrote:
Really? I’d like to see you say that to their faces.
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Misses the point.
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When the point is overwhelmed by such a lack of compassion topped with a judgement on who should and and shouldn’t have been born, no, it’s not missed, it just takes a back seat.
I didn't say they shouldn't be born. Please don't misrepresent what I posted.
But do you think that bearing children into a society where starvation is a fairly likely fate for many really is really a very good outcome that shows any kind of compassion? Either to that child or its siblings who then have to share inadequate food resources with yet another? Where's the compassion in that?
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There is good in the world.
Indeed there is.
Fosgate wrote:
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]I don't presume to know what an omnipotent being wants.
Nor do I.
Fosgate wrote:
Then why limit the hypothetical to all-powerful, benevolent Gods that would stop all evil from occurring?
I have no hypothetical gods. No gods. Period. I'm an atheist.
Fosgate wrote:
It goes back to my unanswered questions on parenting. Would you or would you not allow your child to fail if it was ultimately better for them to do so?
I thought I did answer your original point about that on the merits or otherwise of suffering. The question as posed then has no specific answer. Nor does it now.
Fail at what though?
Achieving the required grades to get to university?
Fail to respond to medical treatment for an otherwise terminal illness?
Fail to pass the driving test?
Can you give examples of what kind of failure would benefit them?