Wayne Stollings wrote:
Fosgate wrote:
No, but apparently we’ve learned what not to do to prevent nothing.
Huh?
There was never anything to worry about in the first place.
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Yes, unless you have some way to prevent people from doing something crazy or sounding like they will do something crazy, telling the difference beforehand will always be a maybe.
No, those reacting to the maybe, locking folks up involuntarily, had damn well better have a way, not me.
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So how do you propose they determine whether this is an "often" case or an "unusual" case without an evaluation?
I don’t. I’m inquiring to those in support of a system with faults to tell me what they’re doing to correct its faults. If you’re not concerned or are simply complacent with how it is, to each his/her own I guess.
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How do you determine whether it significantly lowers the rate or not?
You observe the rate over time as you change factors that potentially affect the rate.
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How do you determine whether he was on the path to doing something and this may have derailed that track or not?
Exactly. You have no idea what he was going to do nor what he will do from now on…and now he’s free. You do know now much even a mere 3 day observation costs, right? You willing to fork out that much for mights and maybes?
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How do you accurately predict who is unstable and who is not? Then how do you predict who is sufficiently unstable and who is not at any given time?
Facebook posts, apparently.
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So you want perfection?
No, I seek correction. You can chase perfection, but you’ll never catch it. I don’t expect folks to sit on their asses and become complacent knowing they never will, however.
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No, they didn't even charge him with a crime, they just held him for observation.
$$$ for nothing and chicks for free. We're batting .500 at least.
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Determining whether someone it a threat to themselves or others is punishment how?
When it is unnecessary, it becomes false imprisonment.
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Have you ever dealt with someone who was having mental issues?
I have, it involving involuntarily hospitalization on more than one occasion.
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Here’s my beef—he was freed. That means the evidence was BS and someone made a mistake.
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It didn’t what? What’s “it”?
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and to make the statement indicates a high level of ignorance of the system.
So, you’re okay with the additional costs incurred to do what we did? Comfortable now, at least?
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For what? Not being omniscient?
For wasting time and money on a non-threat.