From numerous articles I have read, the anthropogenic part of climate forcing is between 75 and 93%, with the higher number most probable. This is especially true for the past 32 years of climate change. I had read much about it before I went online in Jan2002. I had hope, then, that survivors of the population crash would be able to make it in remote well defended Earthship villages or similar villages with a small manufacturing ability. Over time I realized that if people continued to burn fossil fuels at the rate they were, up until the crash, then too much HGHGs would be in the atmosphere and in momentum. I had learned more about methane hydrate sensitivity, and knew that the worse than worst case scenario is what is playing out. Time is quickly running out with any hope of stopping eventual thermageddon. The Earthship villages will not survive, and the amount of time for the Earth to re-sequester the runaway methane turnover, is too long for even a breeder reactor powered underground fortress, over a large untapped aquifer, with grow light farms and many tons of supplies, to last. Just like time ran out to reduce population, enough to stop the crash, peacefully, last century. People have been miss-informed and ignorant of AGW, leading to fatal delays in going to a low carbon footprint society. People like you, snowy, with doubts, and spreading those doubts, will allow the biosphere to pass the tipping points of positive feedback loops forming from nature. The coal fired power plants will not be replaced with Gen IV nuclear, solar, wind, wave and tidal hydro, in time to prevent the methane self release to turnover ELE completion in a millennium or so. When I went online, there was hope. The ridiculous prolonged arguing instead of actually going green, has taken away the hope of preventing ecocide. The future for humanity and nearly 90% of other species is now extinction, unless by some remote miracle a WWII type mobilization takes place to reduce HGHGs 90% by 2020.
Hey, snow and others, remember this???? I found it buried in another forum; "We have two denier loons who have only one agenda which is to destroy this forum and one of those loons you appointed as moderator(snowy). It is quite clear there agenda is to do anything to stop proper discussion on AGW including wherever possible to create as much confusion and trouble as possible. Even on WUWT that hold a standard that all discussions must be standard scientifically based it's that simple. Quote Originally Posted by ANTHONY WATTS I have been badgered repeatedly to carry “Slayer” articles on WUWT, and with the exception of one cartoon by Josh, I have refused to do so since I and science view the work (and its derivatives) as pointless and fatally flawed. Now we have reached the situation where we have denier loon realizes his mate isn't going to pull him up for anything and essentially posting garbage after garbage that he openly admits is not standard scientific. I have no problem discussing what science says about climate science but I draw the line at you being able to make up your own version of science. People coming here to learn and discuss AGW should not have to wade thru post after post that they are the dumber for having ever read. Perhaps I should start posting that aliens are causing AGW as that apparently will be perfectly acceptable. We have to have some norms some conventions that we adhere too every climate forum has too because the area seems to attract the loon factor. (from 5-19-12 post by uglybb) "
_________________ "With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life. “We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle “Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein
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