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Well as anyone who lives in the UK knows, we haven't actually had a summer this year. Just cold weather and tons of rain. Now I know global warming = more rain (my geography teacher back in school went on and on about how it should really be called 'global warming and wetting') and I get that, with warmer air leading to more sea being evaporated (which kind of goes against sea levels rising doesn't it? Not that I'm saying they're not) and hence more rain. But isn't it supposed to be wetter and warmer? Where's all the sunshine???

Estelle Page

Maybe you will eventually warm up!
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TANG SOO!

Temperate rain forests exist here in Canada. They make great places for ski resorts because they snow so much. All summer the temperature does not get warmer then about 12 degrees C. It is still a rain forest. You might find this to be the result on many parts of the world in a warmer globe. Here in the Canadian prairies, two years ago we had 4 years of rain in one summer and two years worth in one month. Since then, I have seen lots of giant rodents in the grass and I figure they are the bog lemmings that normally only live in... bogs. I think all that flooding killed off the regular vole species and the various mouse species and provided the perfect weather for bog lemmings to multiply. This is also an expected result of climate change... a new set of wildlife to take over.

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Pollution is not the solution

I think there is still no solid link between increased variances in precipitation events and Climate Change. Natural Variability from the NAO/AO/AMO play a major role in the UK's Weather, and are probably more likely responsible for your summer's unusual weather than Climate Change.

This might help:

"Is extreme weather caused by global warming?"

http://www.skepticalscience.com/extreme ... arming.htm

"The 30 major droughts of the 20th century were likely natural in all respects", however THIS year's drought has gone beyond historic, which is one of the first effects of AGW. It also has pushed the jet stream into further oscillation, which is a big bringer of climate fluctuation beyond historic. This effect on crops gets to be a failure in one out of 3 years at any given location. One of the horsemen of the human population crash.
Another horseman, that rides in with continued fossil fuel burning, is self perpetuating methane releases to AETM and ELE. THAT could be stopped, maybe, IF humanity cuts HGHG emissions 90% by 2020 or before. After, the chance of stopping it decreases toward zero, rapidly. Lots of luck doing that with people like snowy and other denialists who throw all caution to the wind with tired rehashed debunked pseudo science garbage, and the fact it is easiest to do the wrong thing.
Half measures will avail us nothing. We stand at the turning point. One way is difficult, the other is easy at first, but becomes hell on Earth for future generations.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein