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As one of America's most unethical big businesses, they will use any loophole they can find, to try and get adolescents addicted to their products. There was a law that was passed that cigarettes could not be flavored, so that yound people would become addicted to the cigarettes. They then flavored cigars, to get teens addicted to them, since the law did not specify the cigars as not having any flavor.

They are perhaps the most evil big business allowed to thrive. They have commited crimes against humanity, by fooling people that cigarettes were harmless, when they turned out to have significant amounts of carcinogens in them. Even when the science suggested that cigarettes could be harmful to human health, the Tobacco Industry tried and suppress the science so that they can get their dirty money. Evil significantly understates how morally unjust the Tobacco Industry is. They put an addictant to get people to get their product, even though there is absolutely NOTHING good about their product whatsoever. With chemicals like rat poison in cigarettes, it is worth questioning with regard to if their primary intent was to kill people.

They have probably killed hundreds of thousands of people and perhaps millions of people with cigarettes and other various other tobacco products through lung cancer and various other cancers.

Yet this disgustingly pathetic business is allowed to thrive and kill yet more people with their toxic products.

Is it then odd that some of the same groups and people who helped create the confusion around the science positions on tobacco products are now involved with the creation of confusion around the science positions on global climate change?

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You mean like S. Fred Singer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._Fred_Singer

http://www.usatoday.com/money/books/rev ... 1_ST_N.htm

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To add to what Wayne wrote, try the documentary "Denial Machine":

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9045867811

And the main site:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/denialmachine/

Read the section "Who Is Keeping The Debate Of Global Warming Alive?" for a summary of the documentary.

I forgot to add that those who want to see the references to the tobacco industry in the video may jump to around the 13-min mark.

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

Yes, scientists get into all kinds of mischeif! As can be seen in the organics thread, Ingram Olken was tied to debunking the dangers of tobacco and is now involved in debunking the value of organics.[/quote]

What is the agenda for discussing such a tenuous connection between tobacco and the nutrition of organic foods? [/quote]

Shows corporate dishonesty. I thought that was fairly obvious.

So .... hmmmm ..... the misleading Stanford study had no funding, right?
I really, really, really, doubt that! They just haven't told us who is backing them.
Of course most people who have given it any thought have a pretty clear idea of the politics involved in this one!

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