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And then the issue of guns ... and gun "control" is unique to the US. Most countries are not having this discussion because NO country has an amnedmet like the 2nd .... which might need amending.

Callaway writes "We cling to our legal rights to guns as a matter of pride in our heritage, as a point of being able to protect ourselves as we have through our history. But we don't see the collective price of our stubbornness, either in lost lives or in how the rest of the world perceives us."

http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/world/as-amer ... ome&s=home

I lived in the US for a year, and during that year I got to see what a bubble it is. If you are there, there is nowhere else. You get so caught up in "life in america" that you really must leave the country to believe that any other country exists. You cannot simply vacation .... or read travel books .... you simply have to get out. The issue of guns, violence, mental illness, etc., is very, very unique to the US. But you would not realize this unless you get out of that particular conditioning. The rest of the world shakes their head.


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I'm sorry, I left off the appropriate tags...

<sarc>Yeah, a security door...with a plate glass window in it or next to it that can be easily broken.</sarc>


And yeah, kevlar and security guards are rather expensive, bullet resistant and/or shatter proof not so much.

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There was a good editorial in the CoSpgs paper. Guards, volunteer or paid, and numerous teachers given CCW training and also armed seems the best answer.
Foreigners calling the USA a "gun mad" nation are absurd. General training and a mental, written, and shooting test, also are good requirements. Limiting magazines to 13 or less (so my Para P 14 is OK!)
Texas town allows teachers to carry concealed guns
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22229 ... ealed-guns

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Another opinion ...... :shock:

http://www.salon.com/2012/12/19/nationa ... d_setting/

As part of an NRO symposium called “Newtown Answers,” Charlotte Allen writes:

There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

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