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Interwesting information on the stress factor.

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When the NRA finally broke its silence one week after the massacre of children in Newtown, its searing screed blasting everyone else for the carnage, and blaming everything but guns should have surprised no one.

Its proposed "solution" - protecting schools with armed guards - is ludicrously misguided in multiple ways, not least by the simple fact that Columbine High School was protected by two armed guards, to no avail, not to mention the statistical record, highlighted in a report from the Children's Defense Fund, which shows that "the 5,740 children and teens killed by guns in 2008 and 2009 would fill more than 229 public school classrooms of 25 students each" - a rate of more than two Newtown massacres a week.

But if we want get to the core of the NRA's madness, it helps enormously to consider its warped worldview on the one hand - where "the only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun" - and its complete misunderstanding of rights on the other hand.


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Blaming guns and the association of gun owners is bogus.
Here is one that happened locally 5 yrs. ago, an armed woman saved many>>>> =D> =D> =D>
http://www.gazette.com/opinion/jeanne-1 ... doesn.html
and I really like this guy's no nonsense approach!!!
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12 ... ol-schools
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ :mrgreen: =; :angel: I am another good guy with a gun and CCW :mrgreen:
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As I reconsidered my logic and let go of my previous rationale, the only remaining argument in my mind was the old standby,”Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” That is undeniable. But given the fact that the UK, France, Germany, Japan and Australia collectively have more people than the U.S. and only .05% the gun deaths, it is now obvious to me that the complete story veiled behind the “guns don’t kill people” half truth is: “Guns don’t kill people, but when people have access to guns, they kill a lot more innocent people than they otherwise could.”


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Real combat veterans such as myself would not be "under-trained volunteers". Plus others, trained for the job, would not be "cowboys out to kill someone". Those with CCW don't have to have their guns showing to children either. A potential shooter/bomber/slasher would not know who is armed, but that there are people there who are, and ready to stop him/her.
Remember, Paladin only used his gun when he had to, had great respect for the law, and compassion for his fellow man and for women. He was the ultimate good guy, often doing good for no fee at all.
For those who would like the USA to be European style, good luck getting over 80 million people to give up 270 million guns, and good luck getting the millions of outlaws to obey. How about getting islamic suicide bombers to obey, there are 1.6 billion potential ones out there. Europe is not safe from conquest by them.

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Positing the radical notion of claiming personal responsibility for what we do, say or sell, a Florida pawn shop owner has decided to stop selling guns, which represent at least half his sales, in the wake of the Newtown shooting. Frank James, whose youngest child is six years old, said that after watching the news of Sandy Hook, he couldn't "be part of it anymore."

A new interactive tally of gun deaths shows 277 since Sandy Hook.


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The NRA Myth of Arming the Good Guys


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SOME people think the NRA stance is a myth or ludicrous, while MANY others, myself included, think it is RIGHT ON.
There have been some recent crimes of people using gasoline for assaults, and the worst school killing was done by bombs in 1927.
Society is not like it was when I was a kid. Overpopulation has caused crowding and a higher number of deranged people.
Disarming 100 million is an affront to our Constitution. The answer to this modern problem is CCW guards at, and CCW holders in, schools, and other places where mass killers would attack. Training is already done with the CCW course, and currency training would help. No unsightly bulges or easy access to weapons by grabby kids. Video surveillance and better door security are needed, too.
I would like to see a ban on violent video games, and perhaps some sort of mental testing with applications to buy guns. Maybe a Rorschach test. Plus, easier access for mental health for people with violent kids/young adults or violent spouses/relatives. IMHO
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Ya think this school is safe?



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So, what's Wayne's solution to all of the evil that takes place? I've still seen that be be expressed. If I missed it, please provide a link?

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