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Do we really need to save lives in a country and world so far into overshoot with overpopulation?
Especially criminal lives, why bother giving them the advantage? (Including the felony violators of Title8 USC1324iv and the invaders in violation of Title8USC1325, and the politicians in high felony violation of US Constitution (and Oath to it) Article Four Section 4, Article Three Section 3)

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Wow, this is interesting. Apparently a "full auto assault rifle" magically transforms into a "personal defense weapon" when placed in the hands of the DHS personnel?

NaturalNews) In yet another huge blow to the rhetoric and narrative of the Obama administration and its desire to disarm the American public, a DHS bid has been uncovered (see documents below) showing that the Department of Homeland Security recently put out an offer to purchase 7,000 full-auto "assault weapons" to be used domestically, inside the USA.

Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying, "AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities."

But it seems he really means they don't belong on the streets of our cities unless they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which case they can be FULL-AUTO assault weapons.

The DHS bid for 7,000 full-auto assault weapons is found by clicking here. The original credit for discovering this goes, to my best knowledge, to Awr Hawkins at Breitbart.com.

In the hands of the government, they're called "Personal Defense Weapons"
The juiciest part of this bid is the use of the phrase "Personal Defense Weapons" to describe the full-auto AR-15s being purchased by DHS.

Apparently, when YOU hold an AR-15, it's an "assault rifle." But magically, if you hand that same rifle to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms itself into a "personal defense weapon."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_a ... z2JOuxMb3d

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"Rocky Mountain Gun Owners Provides Free Firearms Class for Teachers

Windsor, CO – Tonight, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, Colorado's largest grassroots gun rights organization, provided a free firearms training course for 300 teachers.

The 300 men and women braved snow and inclement weather to attend the four hour course focusing on firearms safety and handling, and Colorado gun laws.

“Colorado teachers have been beating down our doors to receive firearms training,” said Rocky Mountain Gun Owners Executive Director Dudley Brown. “They don't want their students to be a victim of the next Adam Lanza. They came here for training tonight because they want the next Adam Lanza to face the barrel of a .45.”



Tonight's class coincided with the introduction of Colorado Senate Bill 9, the Colorado Teacher Carry Bill, which would give school boards the ability to allow teachers to carry a firearm as long as they have a Concealed Weapons Permit."

And this is a great post Siber D, not some biased rhetoric as it would be cut down to be by one who just wants to argue, missing the old BS TES, I guess. A Weatherby owner on the side of the antis is like a traitor to me. What's next, going over to the frackers or Infinite Earthers?? Reasonable?? The above RMGOA is reasonable, the DHS and admin misnaming their weapons is not reasonable at all, in any way.

From Siber D "Wow, this is interesting. Apparently a "full auto assault rifle" magically transforms into a "personal defense weapon" when placed in the hands of the DHS personnel?

NaturalNews) In yet another huge blow to the rhetoric and narrative of the Obama administration and its desire to disarm the American public, a DHS bid has been uncovered (see documents below) showing that the Department of Homeland Security recently put out an offer to purchase 7,000 full-auto "assault weapons" to be used domestically, inside the USA.

Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying, "AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities."

But it seems he really means they don't belong on the streets of our cities unless they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which case they can be FULL-AUTO assault weapons.

The DHS bid for 7,000 full-auto assault weapons is found by clicking here. The original credit for discovering this goes, to my best knowledge, to Awr Hawkins at Breitbart.com.

In the hands of the government, they're called "Personal Defense Weapons"
The juiciest part of this bid is the use of the phrase "Personal Defense Weapons" to describe the full-auto AR-15s being purchased by DHS.

Apparently, when YOU hold an AR-15}SEMI-AUTO{, it's an "assault rifle." But magically, if you hand that same rifle}EXCEPT FULL AUTO{ to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms itself into a "personal defense weapon."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_a ... z2JOuxMb3d

I think the rhetoric of Obama and his DHS goons is a bad, deadly joke and more to fear from our own government....


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http://thebroadside.freedomblogging.com ... ld-listen/

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Johnny, some people get it.

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Johnny,

I am sad that you do not understand, but did not think you really would given some of your positions.

I WANT to keep my weapons and if gun owners are represented by the NRA-ish position of no control the rest of the country will eventually overrule that. If the delay takes too long the backlash may be the removal of guns instead of the control of certain aspects. It is possible to do regardless of the beliefs of those who taunt a father who lost a child at Sandy Hook with the 2nd Ammendment chant.

As for Siber's video that gentleman was a bit ignorant of the facts. One thing that has changed is the availability of high capacity magazines over time. When I was growing up the tubular magazine in a .22 was the highest capacity you could get. Any surplus military weapon was a bolt action, limited internal magazine, or essentially a pistol with a stock. That changed after Viet Nam. Just as the response to high profile shootings caused the sale of mail order surplus rifles to be halted, so can another bring about the eventual removal of all sales and even ownership. The sad fact is that if the huge pool of available weapons diminishes the probability of someone unstable enough to shoot school children of obtaining a weapon that would allow it. It would not happen overnight but it would happen.

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