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Further to the above I grew up on the west coast of coast of Ireland where the winds typically blew from the west. The sky when it was not raining was a brilliant blue, except on the rare occasions when the wind blew from the east and then we got all the industrial smoke and muck from the UK and Europe which resulted in the air gradually getting worse and worse, that was nearly 50 years ago. On the last occasion when I went over too Europe I noticed a continuous haze of pollution that most people seemed to regard as normal.

This site will allow you to track the pollution in your area.


If you think that your area is bad spare a thought for the people who live in Beijing where the the level of pollution is so bad at times that is off the scale of the equipment to measure.
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From left to right, air pollution over Tiananmen Square on March 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14 and 15, 2013

It is also worth pointing out that the atmosphere is typically divided up into the boundary layer which is where most of the weather occurs and higher layers. The boundary layer is typically turbulent and provides good mixing of the atmosphere. Above this layer the air is typically stable and vertical mixing is very slow. Con trails normally occur well into the stratosphere (a stable layer) where anything sprayed of small droplet size would take days, and possible weeks to reach the surface. Next time you see a shaft of light notice how slowly the dust descends, and bear in mind that the size of droplets sprayed from a jet aircraft would have to be much smaller just to achieve any appreciable amount of coverage.

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Are you sure there is an increase or are you now noticing more which causes you to think there is an increase? That is the problem with leaping to a conclusion especially one based on internet blogs by random people. The chemistry, the math, and even the physics do not support the chemtrail theory these folks present you.

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It also appears that the commercial airline engines trended to the more fuel efficient high bypass ratio turbofan engine in the 1990s which just happens to correlate to the development of the chemtrail theories based on perceived changes in the contrails from these new engines.

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These are interesting



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entertaining? .... maybe
informational? .... not really
accurate? ..... not in the least

Indie films are films first and foremost. The opinions, which are dressed as facts, carry more weight than actual factual information in most of them.

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The only way some chemtrail conspiracy would make sense is if they were experimenting with sun blocking material in a remote area to test its effect. This would be for a limited time until they completed their studies. There are certainly precedents for conspiracies that are limited in time and space and numbers involved(Limited to need to know participants). Wide ranging long term conspiracies involving lots of participants, at least conscious ones, I know no precedent for.

The mother of all conspiracy theories is the devil and his evil minions being behind all bad things that happen. That and variations are a major underpinning of much of religion.


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Not only that, but the additional weight which would have to be added to each plane involved would make it almost impossible to have anything but a single purpose flight. Even if there were additives to the fuel making it the spraying product, the range would be significantly reduced between a chem and non-chem flight with the same weight of fuel. The combustion of the additive would be problematic as well. The math just does not support such a hyopothesis.

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