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Seriously fence sitters this guy is deranged. But, all the true believers think this guy is the second coming. He's losing in court, and now he's losing his respect and mind on Twitter.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... _me_what_/


Sounds like a real member of the scientific community doesn't he.

Response from Andrew Bolt to a Dr. Mann tweet accusing Rupert Murdock of paying Bolt to lie.



Mann did offer the classic leftist liberal tactic of the cleverly worded non apology. Once the darling of the IPCC now left to late night drunk tweeting. Dr. Mann a little advice. Don’t piss off those who buy ink by the barrel.

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Fence sitters you know the thing about predictions is that they usually bite you on the ass. Case in point.

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014 ... -scotland/

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Why let something like accuracy get in the way of a good misdirection?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/feb/ ... e.scotland

The future of skiing and snowboarding in Scotland appeared bleak last night after two of the country's five ski resorts were put up for sale after large financial losses.
The owners of Glencoe and Glenshee put the resorts on the market yesterday morning after deciding they could no longer afford to keep them open.

Mild winters and lack of snow in recent years have left the winter sports industry north of the border reeling. Scotland's other three ski areas are also struggling to keep afloat.

With the pace of global warming increasing, some climate change experts predict that the Scottish ski industry will cease to exist within 20 years. The perilous state of finances in the remaining resorts may reduce even that estimate.

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And, a follow up of my last post.

http://iceagenow.info/2014/03/record-sn ... ng-summer/

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It is guys like Milton Banana who have delayed meaningful reductions in emissions pollution and sustainable use of resources, to the point of this>>>>>>>
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and another link;
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Peer-re ... thors.html
Peer-reviewed papers by Skeptical Science authors
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Another station photo. How many photos fence sitters before you begin to seriously question the data presented?


Placed way to close to a cinderblock building. Placed way to close to a concrete pad. Placed way to close to metal boxes that radiate heat. Another fail. Data should be disqualified, but its not.

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Oh a diverse team? Johhny wants to play the numbers game. Okay.

Skeptical Scientists:

A. Alan Moghissi, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Former Director, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Bioenvironmental Division, USA
Adriano Mazzarella, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Sciences, University of Naples, Italy
Aksel C. Wiin-Nielsen, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geophysical Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Albrecht Glatzle, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Agricultural Biology, University of Hohenheim, Germany
Alexander Gumen, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Geology and Geophysics, University of Gomel, Russia
Alfred H. Pekarek, Ph.D. Professor of Earth and Atmospheric Science, St. Cloud State University, USA
Allan M.R. MacRae, B.Sc., M.Eng., P.Eng, Canada
Allen Simmons, BSEE, Former Computer Atmospheric Modeler and Weather Satellite Engineer, NASA, USA
Alois Haas, Ph.D. D.Sc. Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Zurich, Switzerland
Amy Kaleita, Ph.D. Professor of Agricultural and Biosystems Engineering, Iowa State University, USA
Andreas Prokoph, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, University of Ottawa, Canada
Andrei Kapitsa, Ph.D. Professor of Geography, Moscow State Lomonosov University, Russia
Andrew W. Montford, B.Sc. Chemistry, Scientific Publishing, UK
Anthony R. Lupo, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri, USA
Antonino Zichichi, Ph.D. President of the World Federation of Scientists, Italy
Arun D Ahluwalia, Ph.D. Professor of Geology, Panjab University, India
Arthur B. Robinson, Ph.D. BioChemistry (Caltech), Former Professor of Chemistry, University of California San Diego, Professor of Chemistry, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, USA
Arthur G. Anderson, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Arthur V. Douglas, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, Creighton University, USA
Arthur Rorsch, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Molecular Genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands
Atholl Sutherland Brown, Ph.D. Geology, Former Chief Geologist of the British Columbia Geological Survey, Canada
Ben Herman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, University of Arizona, USA
Benjamin D. Pearson, B.S. Physics, USA
Bill Collins, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, James Cook University, Australia
Bjarne Andresen, Ph.D. Theoretical Chemistry, Professor of Physics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Bob Durrenberger, Retired Climatologist, Former President of the American Association of State Climatologists, USA
Boris Winterhalter, Ph.D. Professor of Marine Geology, University of Helsinki, Finland
Brian G. Valentine, Ph.D. Chemical Scientist, U.S. Department of Energy, USA
Brian Pratt, Ph.D. Professor of Sedimentology and Paleontology, University of Saskatchewan, Canada
Bruce Borders, Ph.D. Professor of Forest Biometrics, Warnell School of Forestry and Natural Resources, University of Georgia, USA
Bruce N. Ames, Ph.D. Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of California, Berkeley, USA
Bruno Wiskel, B.Sc. Geology, Canada
Bryan Leyland, M.Sc. Electrical and Mechanical Engineering, New Zealand
Burt Rutan, B.S. Aeronautical Engineering, D.Sc. (honoris causa), USA
Buzz Aldrin, Sc.D. Astronautics, MIT, Astronaut, Gemini 12, Apollo 11, NASA, USA
Carl Johan Friedrich (Frits) Bottcher, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physical Chemistry, University of Leiden, The Netherlands
Charles Gelman, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Health Science, USA
Charles Hammons, Ph.D. Applied Mathematics, Software Engineer, USA
Charles R. Anderson, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Chris de Freitas, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Science, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Christiaan Frans van Sumere, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry, University of Gent, Belgium
Christoph C. Borel, Ph.D. Electrical and Computer Engineering, USA
Christopher Essex, Ph.D. Professor of Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Christopher W. Landsea, B.S. Meteorology, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Research Meteorologist, NOAA Hurricane Research Division, Science & Operations Officer, NOAA Hurricane Research Division, USA
Claes Johnson, Ph.D. Professor of Applied Mathematics, Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden
Claude Allegre, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Science, University Paris, France
Cliff Ollier, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth and Geographical Science, University of Western Australia, Australia
Clinton H. Sheehan, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, Ouachita Baptist University, USA
Colin Barton, Ph.D. Earth Science, Australia
Craig D. Idso, B.S. Geography, M.S. Agronomy, Ph.D. Geography, Former Researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University, Lectured in Meteorology, Arizona State University, Chairman, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, USA
Craig Loehle, B.S. Forest Science, University of Georgia, M.S. Forest Management, University of Washington, Ph.D. Mathematical Ecology, Colorado State University (1982), Research Ecologist, Savannah River Laboratory (1987-1991), Environmental Research Division, Argonne National Laboratory (1991-1998), Member, Ecological Society of America, Member, Society of American Foresters, Member, International Society for Ecological Modeling, Principal Scientist, National Council for Air and Stream Improvement (NCASI) (Present), USA
Dan Carruthers, M.Sc. Wildlife Biology Consultant, Animal Ecology in Arctic and Subarctic Regions Specialist, Canada
Daniel B. Botkin, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Ecology and Marine Biology, University of California, USA
David Deming, Ph.D. Professor of Geology and Geophysics, University of Oklahoma, USA
David E. Wojick, Ph.D. Mathematical Logic, USA
David Evans, B.E. Electrical Engineering, B.Sc. Applied Mathematics and Physics, M.A. Applied Mathematics, M.S. Electrical Engineering, M.S. Statistics, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Carbon Accounting Modeller, Australia
David G. Aubrey, B.S. Geological Science, Ph.D. Oceanography, USA
David G. Gee, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, Uppsala Universitet, Sweden
David Gray, Ph.D. Professor of Engineering, Messiah College, USA
David H. Douglass, B.S. Physics, Ph.D. Physics (MIT), Professor of Physics, University of Rochester (1968- Present), Fellow of the American Physical Society, USA
David J. Ameling, B.A. Physics, USA
David J. Bellamy, B.Sc., Ph.D., C.Biol., FIBiol., Former Special Professor of Botany, Special Professor of Geography, Nottingham University, President of the National Association of Environmental Education, UK
David Kear, Ph.D. Geology, New Zealand
David L. Hill, Ph.D. Physics, USA
David Nowell, M.Sc. Meteorology, Royal Meteorological Society, Canada
David R. Legates, Ph.D. Climatology, Professor of Geography, University of Delaware College of Earth, Ocean, and Environment, Former director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware, Delaware State Climatologist, USA
David R. B. Stockwell, Ph.D. Ecosystem Dynamics, Research Scientist, National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, USA
Dick Thoenes, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Chemical Engineering, Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Don J. Easterbrook, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, Western Washington University, USA
Don Parkes, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geography, University of Newcastle, Australia
Donald G. Baker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Soil, Water & Climate, University of Minnesota, USA
Donn Dears, B.S. Engineering, USA
Doug L. Hoffman, Ph.D. Computer Science, Environmental Modeler, USA
Douglas V. Hoyt, Retired Solar Physicist and Climatologist, USA
Duncan Wingham, Ph.D. Professor of Climate Physics, University College London, UK
Eckhard Grimmel, Ph.D. Professor of Geography, University of Hamburg, Germany
Eduardo Tonni, Ph.D. Professor of Paleontology, University of La Plata, Argentina
Edward F. Blick, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, University of Oklahoma, USA
Edward T. "Terry" Wimberley, PhD. Professor of Ecological Studies, Florida Gulf Coast University, USA
Edward Wegman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Computational Statistics, George Mason University, USA
Edwin X. Berry, Ph.D. Atmospheric Physics, AMS, CCM, USA
Eigil Friis-Christensen, Ph.D. Geophysics, Director of the Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Eric S. Posmentier, Professor of Earth Science, Dartmouth, USA
Eugene N. Parker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Astronomy and Astrophysics, University of Chicago, USA
Everett Burts, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Biological Science, Washington State University, USA
F. James Cripwell, B.A. Natural Science (Honours Physics), Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK
Ferenc Miskolczi, Atmospheric Physicist, Hungary
Franco Battaglia, Ph.D. Professor of Chemical Physics and Environmental Chemistry, University of Modena, Italy
Fred Goldberg, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, Sweden
Frederick A. Michel, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, Carlton Universityy, Canada
Fred W. Decker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, Oregon State University, USA
Freeman J. Dyson, Professor Emeritus of Physics, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton University, USA
Gabriel T. Csanady, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, Australia
Garth W. Paltridge, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia
Gary D. Sharp, Ph.D. Marine Biology, USA
Gary Novak, M.S. Microbiology, USA
Geoff L. Austin, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Geoffrey G. Duffy, Ph.D. Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Auckland, New Zealand
George E. McVehil, B.A. Physics, M.S. Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
George E. Smith, B.Sc. Physics and Mathematics, Lecturer, University of Auckland, Australia
George H. Taylor, State Climatologist of Oregon, Professor of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University, USA
George Kukla, Special Research Scientist of Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, USA
George V. Chilingarian, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Engineering, University of Southern California , USA
George Wilhelm Stroke, Ph.D. Physics, France
Gerd-Rainer Weber, M.Sc. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Meteorology, Germany
Gerhard Gerlich, Ph.D. Professor of Mathematical Physics, Technical University Carolo-Wilhelmina, Germany
Gerrit J. van der Lingen, Ph.D. Geology and Paleontology, New Zealand
Glenn E. Shaw, Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Physics, University of Alaska, USA
Goran Ahlgren, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, Sweden
Gordon E. Swaters, Ph.D. Professor of Applied Mathematics and Physical Oceanography, University of Alberta, Canada
Gordon J. Fulks, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Graham Smith, Professor of Geography, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Guy LeBlanc Smith, Ph.D. Geology, Australia
H. Grant (H.G.) Goodell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science, University of Virginia, USA
H. Leighton Steward, M.S. Geology, USA
Habibullo Abdussamatov, D.Sc. Head of the Space Research Laboratory of the Pulkovo Observatory, Russia
Hajo Smit, M.S. Environmental Science, Former Member, Dutch IPCC committee, The Netherlands
Hal W. Lewis, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara, USA
Hans Erren, B.Sc. Geology and Physics, M.Sc. Geophysics, The Netherlands
Hans Jelbring, Ph.D. Climatology, Sweden
Hans Schreuder, Analytical Chemist, UK
Harrison H. Schmitt, Ph.D. Geology, Astronaut, Apollo 17, NASA, USA
Harry A. Taylor, Jr., Research Scientist, Naval Research Laboratory (1951-1958), Research Scientist, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (1958-1988), USA
Harry N.A. Priem, Professor Emeritus of Isotope and Planetary Geology, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Hartwig Volz, Geophysicist, RWE Research Lab, Germany
Heinz Hug, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Organic Chemistry and Analytical Chemistry, University of Mainz, Germany
Hendrik Tennekes, Former Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute, The Netherlands
Henrik Svensmark, Ph.D. Director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Howard C. Hayden, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Connecticut, USA
Howard Maccabee, Ph.D. Biophysics, USA
Hugh W. Ellsaesser, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
Ian Bock, Ph.D. D.Sc. Biological Science, Denmark
Ian D. Clark, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, University of Ottawa, Canada
Ian R. Plimer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia
Indur M. Goklany, B.Tech Electrical Engineering, M.S. Electrical Engineering, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Assistant Director of Programs & Science & Technology Policy, U.S. Department of the Interior, IPCC Principal Author (1990), USA
Ivar Giaever, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, Nobel Prize in Physics (1973), Norway
J. Floor Anthoni, Ph.D. Computer Science, New Zealand
J. Scott Armstrong, B.A. Applied Science, B.S. Industrial Engineering, Ph.D. MIT, USA
Jack Barrett, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, UK
Jack Welch, B.S. M.S. Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, USA
Jacques Robin, Ph.D. Professor of Computer Science, Universidade Federal de Pernambuco, Brazil
James A. Peden, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Experimental Physics, Atmospheric Scientist, USA
James Brooks, Ph.D. Geophysics, Australia
James Goodridge, Retired California State Climatologist, USA
James J. O’Brien, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
James R. Stalker, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, USA
James W. Buckee, Ph.D. Astrophysics, Canada
Jan Veizer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Science, University of Ottawa, Canada
Jarl R. Ahlbeck, D.Sc. Professor of Environmental Engineering, Abo Akademi University, Finland
Jay H. Lehr, Ph.D. Environmental Science, USA
Jasper Kirkby, Particle Physicist at CERN, Switzerland
Jeffrey A. Glassman, Ph.D. Applied Physicist and Engineer, USA
Jens Olaf Pepke Pedersen, Senior Scientist, Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Jennifer Marohasy, Ph.D. Biology, Australia
Joanne Nova, B.S. Microbiology, Former Lecturer, Australian National University, Australia
Joe Kernen B.S. Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology, University of Colorado; M.S. Molecular Biology, MIT
Joel M. Kauffman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia, USA
Joel Schwartz, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Planetary Science, USA
John Blethen, Ph.D. Physics, Nuclear Physicist, USA
John Brignell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Electronics & Computer Science, University of Southampton, UK
John Costella, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics, Australia
John E. Gaynor, M.S. Meteorology, USA
John E. Oliphant, B.A. Mathematics and Physics, M.S. Meteorology, USA
John E. Sununu, M.S. Mechanical Engineering, MIT, USA
John Etherington, Ph.D. Emeritus Reader of Ecology, University of Wales, UK
John K. Sutherland, Ph.D. Geology, UK
John Nicol, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, James Cook University, Australia
John R. Christy, B.A. Mathematics, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1991-Present), Director of the Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville, NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1991), American Meteorological Society’s Special Award (1996), Alabama State Climatologist (2000-Present), Fellow of the American Meteorological Society (2002-Present), IPCC Contributor (1992, 1994, 1996, 2007), IPCC Lead Author (2001), USA
John Reid, Ph.D. Atmospheric Physics, Former Scientist for CSIRO’s Division of Oceanography, Australia
John S. Theon, M.S. Meteorology, Ph.D. Engineering Science, Chief of Climate Processes Research Program, NASA, USA
John W. Bales, Ph.D. Professor of Mathematics and Modeling, Tuskegee University, USA
Jon Jenkins, Ph.D. Computer Modelling and Virology, Australia
Jorgen Peder Steffensen, Ph.D. Professor and Curator, Centre for Ice and Climate, Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Joseph Conklin, M.S. Meteorology, USA
Joseph D’Aleo, M.S. Meteorology, Former Professor of Meteorology, Lyndon State College, USA
Joseph J. Delgado Domingos, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Engineering, Instituto Superior Tecnico, Portugal
Joseph (Joe) P. Sobel, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
Kanya Kusano, Ph.D. Program Director of the Earth Simulator, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science & Technology, Japan
Kary Mullis, Ph.D. Biochemistry, Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1993, USA
Keith D. Hage, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta, Canada
Keith E. Idso, Ph.D. Botany, USA
Kelvin Kemm, Ph.D. Nuclear Physics, South Africa
Ken Gregory, B.A.Sc. Mechanical Engineering, Canada
Kenneth E.F. Watt, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Studies, University of California, Davis, USA
Kenneth P. Green, D.Env. Environmental Science and Engineering, Expert Reviewer, IPCC, USA
Kevin Van Cott, Ph.D. Professor of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering, University of Nebraska-Lincoln, USA
Kiminori Itoh, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Metrology, Yokohama National University, Japan
Klaus L.E. Kaiser, Ph.D. Chemistry
Klaus Wyrtki, Ph.D. Oceanography, Physics, Mathematics, Germany
Kunihiko Takeda, Ph.D. Professor of Science and Technology Research, Chubu University, Japan
Laurence I. Gould, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, University of Hartford, USA
Lee C. Gerhard, Ph.D. Geology, USA
Lee Raymond, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, USA
Leif Svalgaard, M.S. Geophysics, USA
Len Walker, Ph.D. Soil Mechanics, Australia
Leonard Weinstein, B.Sc. Physics, Sc.D. Engineering, USA
Louis Hissink, M.Sc. Geology, Australia
Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics, Czech Republic
Lucia Liljegren, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, USA
Madhav L. Khandekar, B.Sc. Mathematics and Physics, M.Sc. Statistics, Ph.D. Meteorology, Expert Reviewer, IPCC, Canada
Martin Livermore, B.S. Chemistry, UK
Manik Talwani, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Mark P. Mills, B.S. Physics, Canada
Martin Hertzberg, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, USA
Mel Goldstein, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
Michael D. Griffin, B.S. Physics, M.S. Applied Physics, Ph.D. Aerospace Engineering, USA
Michael E Adams, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
Michael Hammer, BE, MEngSc, Engineering Science, Australia
Michael J. Economides, Ph.D. Professor of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering, University of Houston, USA
Michael J. Oard, B.S., M.S. Atmospheric Science, USA
Michael S. Coffman, M.S. Biology, Ph.D. Forest Science, USA
Michael Savage, B.S. Biology, M.S. Anthropology, M.S. Botany, Ph.D. Epidemiology, USA
Michael R. Fox, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, USA
Miklos Zagoni, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, Eotvos Lorand University, Hungary
Morgan J. Poliquin, B.A.Sc. Geological Engineering, M.Sc. Geology, Canada
Nathan Paldor, Ph.D. Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography, Hebrew University, Israel
Noah E. Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry (Caltech), Research Professor, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, USA
Neil Frank, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
Neil Hutton, Ph.D. Geology, Canada
Nicola Scafetta, Ph.D. Climate Research Scientist, Duke University, USA
Nigel Calder, M.A. Physics (Cambridge), Research Physicist, Philips Group (1954-1956), Editor, New Scientist (1962-1966), Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Nigel Marsh, Senior Scientist, Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Nils-Axel Morner, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Palegeophysics and Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Sweden
Nima Sanandaji, Ph.D. Biochemistry, UK
Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel
Norman Brown, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Ulster, UK
Ola M. Johannessen, Professor of Oceanography, University of Bergen, Norway
Olavi Kärner, Ph.D. Atmospheric Physics, Estonia
Oliver W. Frauenfeld, Ph.D. Environmental Science, USA
Paavo Siitam, M.Sc. Agronomy, Canada
Pal Brekke, Ph.D Theoretical Astrophysics, Norwegian Space Center, Norway
Paul C. Knappenberger, M.S. Environmental Sciences, Former Climate Researcher, Virginia State Climatology Office, USA
Paul Copper, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Science, Laurentian University, Canada
Paul Driessen, B.A. Geology and Field Ecology, USA
Paul Reiter, Ph.D. Professor of Medical Entomology, Pasteur Institute, France
Patrick Frank, Ph.D. Chemistry, USA
Patrick J. Michaels, A.B. Biological Sciences, S.M. Biology, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, Virginia State Climatologist (1980-2007), Associate Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1986-1995), President, American Association of State Climatologists (1987-1988), Research Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1996-Present), IPCC Contributing Author and Reviewer, USA
Patrick Moore, B.Sc. Forest Biology, Ph.D. Ecology, Greenpeace co-founder, Canada
Peter Dietze, Dipl.-Ing (M.S. Electrical Engineering), Germany
Peter R. Odell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of International Energy Studies, Erasmus University Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Peter Stilbs, TeknD (Ph.D.) Physical Chemistry, Sweden
Peter W. Huber, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, MIT, USA
Petr Chylek, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Fellow of the American Geophysical Union, Canada
Philip J. Klotzbach, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Research Scientist, Colorado State University, USA
Philip K. Chapman, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, Sydney University (1956), M.S. Aeronautics and Astronautics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1964), Sc.D. Instrumentation, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1967), Physicist, Australian National Antarctic Research Expedition (1958-1959), Engineer, Canadian Aviation Electronics Limited (1960-1961), British Polar Medal (1961), Physicist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1962-1967), Astronaut, Apollo 14, NASA (1967-1972), Australia
Philip Lloyd, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Chemical Engineering, University of the Witwatersrand, South Africa
Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus of Biogeography, University of London, UK
Piers Corbyn, B.Sc. Physics, M.Sc. Astrophysics, UK
R.G. Roper, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, Georgia Institute of Technology, USA
R. Perry Glaister, Ph.D. Geology, Canada
R. Tim Patterson, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, Carleton University, Canada
R. W. Gauldie, Ph.D. Research Professor Emeritus of Ocean and Earth Science, University of Hawaii, USA
Raphael A.J. Wust, M.Sc., Ph.D. Lecturer of Earth Science, James Cook University, Australia
Ralf D. Tscheuschner, Ph.D. Physics, Germany
Ralph B. Alexander, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Randall Cerveny, Ph.D. Geography, USA
Richard A. Keen, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Colorado, USA
Richard C. Willson, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, USA
Richard S. Courtney, B.A. Material Science, DipPhil Material Science, Expert Reviewer, IPCC, USA
Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT, USA
Richard T. McNider, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville, USA
Rob Scagel, M.Sc., Forest Microclimate Specialist, Canada
Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Geography, Former Director, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University, USA
Robert C. Whitten, Ph.D. Physics, Retired Research Scientist, NASA Ames Research Center, USA
Robert E. Davis, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Virginia, USA
Robert G. Williscroft, B.Sc. Oceanography and Meteorology, M.Sc. Ph.D. Engineering, USA
Robert Giegengack, Ph.D. Professor of Earth and Environmental Science, University of Pennsylvania, USA
Robert H. Austin, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, Princeton University, USA
Robert H. Essenhigh, M.S. Natural Science, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, UK
Robert L. Kovach, Professor of Geophysics, Stanford University, USA
Robert M. Carter, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental and Earth Science, James Cook University, Australia
Robin Vaughan, Ph.D. Physics, UK
Roger A. Pielke Sr., Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University, Senior Research Scientist, Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES), University of Colorado in Boulder, USA
Roger A. Pielke Jr., B.A. Mathematics, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Studies, University of Colorado at Boulder, Fellow, Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES), Former Research Scientist, National Center for Atmospheric Research, USA
Roger Bate, M.Sc. Environmental and Resource Management, Ph.D. Economics, UK
Roger W. Cohen, M.S. Ph.D. Physics, USA
Romuald Bartnik, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Organic Chemistry, Univeversity of Lodz, Poland
Roy W. Spencer, B.S. Atmospheric Sciences, M.S. Meteorology, Ph.D. Meteorology, Research Scientist, University of Wisconsin (1982-1984), Senior Scientist for Climate Studies, NASA (1984-2001), NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1991), American Meteorological Society’s Special Award (1996), Principal Research Scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville (2001-Present), USA
S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science, University of Virginia, USA
Sallie Baliunas, Ph.D. Astrophysics, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, USA
Sau-Hai Lam, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Engineering, Princeton University, USA
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Simon C. Brassell, B.Sc. Chemistry & Geology, Ph.D. Organic Geochemistry, UK
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Stanley W. Trimble, B.S. Chemistry (1963), M.A. Geography (1970), Ph.D. Population and Settlement Geography (1973), Research Hydrologist, US Geological Survey (1973-1984), Professor of Geography, UCLA (1975-Present), Visiting Professor, University of Chicago (1978, 1981, 1990), Visiting Professor, University College London (1985), Frost Lectureship, British Geomorphological Research Group (1994), Visiting Professor, University of Vienna (1994, 1999), Fulbright Senior Fellowship (1995), Visiting Fellow, University of Oxford (1995), Committee on Watershed Management , National Research Council-National Academy of Sciences (1996), Visiting Fellow, University of Durham (1998), Blue Ribbon Award for Environmental Hydrology, American Society of Agricultural Engineers (2004), Excellence Award for Environmental Hydrology, Soil and Water Conservation Society (2005), Committee on the Mississippi River and the Clean Water Act, National Research Council-National Academy of Sciences (2005), USA
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Sylvan H. Wittwer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Horticulture, Michigan State University, USA
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The Troposphere warming slower than forecast doesn't necessarily disprove AGW, but it may show that the oceans are more efficient at absorbing heat than modeled. Probably as some form of natural variability from the PDO. Sea Level has rose faster than projected over the last 20 or so years, so the overestimated warming at the surface can be explained by the underestimated rise in Sea Level.

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Worldwide? That is a pitifully small number of scientists considering U.S. academic institutions awarded 48,802 research doctorate degrees in 2008 alone. I count 334 names which would be only 0.684% of one years worth of doctorates in the US.

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Thus, that's one of the reasons I feel sensitivity is on the lower end of the 1.5-4.5 Degree C consensus. I'd hedge it at between 1.5-2.5 Degrees C. However, Sea Level may rise faster than projected over the 21st Century.

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The NCDC actually takes potential measurement biases into account. They have a website where they go through step by step with the adjustments made to the dataset.



Even if the Surface Temperatures are not reliable, there are other methods of measuring temperature to confirm that the Earth has warmed, such as through proxy data like Anderson et al. 2013 did.

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Over 9000 hits fence sitters.

There are clear guidelines published by NOAA as to how these stations are to be properly set up. Here is the link again. The photo of this station clearly violates station guidelines. I would think the reason these guidelines were decided upon was to insure as clear as possible data collection.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/coop/standard.htm

Why decide upon and issue guidelines for proper station installation, and then ignore them and later fashion a bias correction? How can one correction do for many different stations with many different variables? Would this correction work for the station photographed above the same as the station in California placed on a roof top? Or the station placed next to hot AC exhaust? Or the station placed next to a brick building, or the one right next to an asphalt parking lot? It would be impossible. A bias correction for a temperature reading? Only in the minds of the federal government.

But, I've noticed a curious similarity. Satellites for measuring temperature fall out of calibration from simple orbital decay. Another data bias technique to solve an unforeseen problem? Or an opportunity? Problems with ground and satellite temperature data. Two completely different methods. A bias correction is employed that achieves the same end. Making things purposefully difficult to muddy the waters?

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If one looks at the length of data from some of these sites one will see that many of the "violations" most probably were added to the site after the establishment of the station. Also, the guidelines were not established until much later in the program's history.

The comparison of the data for the rural stations with no issues to the urban stations where there is supposedly an uncorrectable issue showed a higher trend for the rural stations, which means the data for the probelm stations are most likely being over corrected.

Satellites do fall out of calibration, just like ANY electronic measurement system will do over time, but reading that string of mercury thermometers dangling down from it would be a real bear. Perhaps the true problem with the so-called skeptical camp is their distrust of science in general. That would explain things about some of them more completely. Such as those who cannot comprehend the power of mathematics and averages of large set of numbers to offset minor measurement issues.

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A few questions for Milton.

One, how do you explain studies like Kinnard et al. which show an unprecedented decline in Arctic Sea Ice relative to the last 1,450 years?

How do explain how the Earth continues to remain in a positive energy imbalance despite the very low solar activity, as evidenced by continued heat content increase and sea level rise? Heat Content increase has been well documented by Levitus et al. and Murphy et al. The continued rise in Sea Level while solar activity has been in a slump has been documented by Church et al.

I'm also assuming that you believe the ECS to be below typical accepted values of 1.5-4.5 K? If so, how do you explain the large fluctuations in paleoclimate? Such large fluctuations with that low of a sensitivity would need a huge forcing, much larger than known orbital forcing, a forcing that has not been documented.

Lastly, how do you explain the pattern of warming, such as the stratosphere cooling in response to the troposphere warming? In all of the studies I've seen that try and attribute stratospheric cooling, they nearly all attribute it to some combination of primarily stratospheric ozone depletion and greenhouse gases, and a secondary role for stratospheric water vapor changes.

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http://notrickszone.com/2014/03/15/germ ... ing-fraud/



Fence sitters one more example of what Europe is doing to create energy poverty.

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