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http://fortune.com/2014/12/21/why-the-n ... over-food/

The world has a massive food crisis on its hands. The crisis is so big that organizations like theWorld Bank and the United Nations say there won’t be enough food to feed the global population when it jumps from the current seven billion people to nine billion by 2050.

Some research even suggests a food scarcity crunch as early as 2030 – just 15 years from now.

The reasons? Severe weather events like droughts and floods, economic hardships, and political unrest in underdeveloped countries, as well as agribusiness expansion.

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Even with the population stable, there won't be enough food as aquifers deplete and irrigation stops, as soils turn to sterile sand, floods, early and late frosts, high winds, and disrupted distribution, along with more expensive factory farming.
The actual peak food was in the 1990s to 2000s, a very rounded 'peak'. By mid century the food output will be about half of that for 6 billion people, or well under the sedentary starvation level with even distribution. Sure, people will fight for food and water, turn cannibal and even drink their own urine.
Wars increase, along with malnutrition and low immunity with diseases more fatal. The increasing heat itself will cause more hostility along with more crowding.
The death rate increases to greater than the birth rate, with a very steep population decline.
Starting before 2030 and finishing just after mid century, followed by thermal max effects.
Unless a 'natural' disaster precipitates an earlier crash. Perhaps early enough to bring down emissions 90%+ in the next decade.
I think Cascadia or the La Palma slide could easily ruin the USA and cause world depression and mass starvation. If Katla causes a volcanic winter, the same.
After 2030 will be too late for anything but a Yellowstone eruption to change it from the thermal max trajectory, and after around 2100, it will be too late for even that to stop GTE.
Ruin of the biosphere could also happen with a nuclear war well over nuclear winter size.
Major bad things will happen in the lives of those living in 15 years. The party will be over.

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I imagine if you have enough water and energy you can batch together something that will pass as food and even get it distributed. Potable water appears to be key. The thing about the rich countries taking food from the poor is the food ties up most of the useable water supply. In the long run trading most of your food for railroads and electrical grids does not appear to be a very good bargain or for that matter giving up biodiversity to grow coffee for foreign cash.

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Just another thought. If this is such a big problem than perhaps we should stop putting food (corn) into petroleum (gasoline) to burn in our cars.

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

In 1804 there were 1 billion people

In 1927 there were 2 billion people

In 1959 there were 3 billion people

In 1974 there were 4 billion people

In 1987 there were 5 billion people

In 1999 there were 6 billion people

In 2012 there were 7 billion people

Today 1/3 of the world's ~7.25 billion population live in China and India alone ........

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"You can always trust them(Americans) to do the right thing. You just have to wait until they have exhausted all their other options first"

This is an old video of Gwynne Dyer,author of Climate Wars, however I think it is appropriate seeing how so many of the senarios described here are coming to fruition now.The news almost always describes conflicts over water and food as "ethinc conflicts". We rarely get to the root of the issues.
The Q,A session is just as interesting as the talk.
"because they are relatively cheap almost any government can do this(geo engineering)"
"Albertans are placing much of their beef research into growing meat in tubes"
My appologies if this specific info. has already been covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NYSsLJ87UY

Climate Wars: What People Will Be Killed For in the 21st Century Hardcover – January 24, 2012
by Harald Welzer (Author)

"Struggles over drinking water, new outbreaks of mass violence, ethnic cleansing, civil wars in the earth’s poorest countries, endless flows of refugees: these are the new conflicts and forces shaping the world of the 21st century. They no longer hinge on ideological rivalries between great powers but rather on issues of class, religion and resources. The genocides of the last century have taught us how quickly social problems can spill over into radical and deadly solutions. Rich countries are already developing strategies to garner resources and keep ‘climate refugees’ at bay."
The other one is from 2010.
Yes, they called WWI one thing and WWII another, always dodging the overpopulation bullet as a major root cause. I usually just generalize on the horrors involved in overpopulation, but do include the factual cannibalism. People getting killed by some lazy shitheads who want your canned food, or even your body, until the gangs eye each other as food when the rest is gone. The agonies of thousands of ways to die, from malnutrition and resultant diseases, to the swelled black tongues of those whose faucets quit running. Over flowing toilets, and trash 4 feet deep in all the cities. Poached rats and warthogs, with house cats a delicacy. Everything edible and burnable gone for miles and miles, with the stench of a half billion deaths per year filling the clearing and hotter skies. In a thousand years, deep in a fortress, the last man faces having to go to the surface for some form of food. A surface devoid of life and over a hundred degrees average hotter, going quickly toward a thermal max of +200*C, until the sun melts it during nova in 4.5 billion years. A wonderful gift from God shit on by the majority of greedy, ignorant, and lustful humans.
Don't blame me, I'm one of the very small minority, but will die unable to have changed anything, except my own afterlife as we watch, tears in Heaven, and realize the unlived lives of billions of children of the future who will now never be. The beauty destroyed. Untold billions who will never have an afterlife of beauty, because of religions, cultures, ethnicities, greed and dire need, politics---blame everything except overpopulation.

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“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

Wars of the past and local fighting have happened a lot in the past over water;

Washington State Declares Drought Emergency

The Huffington Post | By Lydia O'Connor
Posted: 05/15/2015 6:26 pm EDT
WASHINGTON YAKIMA VALLEY
The Windy Point Vineyards in Wapato, Yakima River Valley. | Bernt Rostad | Flickr

"Drought isn't just a California problem, folks. Washington Gov. Jay Inslee declared a statewide drought emergency on Friday, with snowpack and stream flows dramatically below normal.

“We’re really starting to feel the pain from this snowpack drought," Inslee said at a press conference. "Impacts are already severe in several areas of the state. Difficult decisions are being made about what crops get priority water and how best to save fish. ... We have some tough, challenging months ahead of us. We’re ready to bring support and relief to the hardest hit areas of the state. We’re going to do everything we can to get through this."

The drought in Washington, famous for lush greenery and rainy weather, is less severe than what California has endured since 2011. Data released by the National Drought Mitigation Center on Thursday shows how conditions have worsened in Washington over the last year."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... 94654.html
There is even a website with articles on the CA drought;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/california-drought/

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein