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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

What we have here is a “global” land based temperature study. NASA and NOAA release to the public a statement that according to this study 2014 is the hottest year since measurements were taken by man. When some said hang on a minute the government muddied the waters stating no we are 48 percent certain that what we said is true, and we are 38 percent certain that our study states the original headline.

What completely amazes me is that this is defended by anyone.

It has been pointed out a weak solar cycle and a neutral ENSO could not produce record temperatures. I agree. What I am stating is that the OP study is in error. How do I know this? By their own admission. I submit that the OP study on one hand has a 52 percent chance it is wrong. And, on the other hand has a 62 percent chance of being in error. Odds are I have a better chance at being right.

Again by their own admission.

And, upon further examination this will be just another study to toss on the ever growing heap of studies that are fraught with errors. Riddled with methodology anomalies. (Do I need to start posting photos of land based temperature stations again?) Infused with dodgy data, and uncooperative data deleted. Uncooperative scientists that will refuse to present their work for replication because it can’t be replicated or it will become very obvious just exactly how they cheated. Another stellar example of government sponsored climate science. And, I’m the one that is referred to as a “denier.” Man I got nothing on you true believers.

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Dude,

Did you even take a math or science class in high school? The uncertainty associated with the global average temperature is due to the fact that we do not have a measurement for every location on the planet from which to add to the averaging calculations. The interesting aspect is when the satellite data is given those like yourself seem to take it as being accurate beyond question even though there are error ranges in those measurements as well. The satellite and surface measurements show very similar trends when compared, so the "smoke and mirrors" claims about accuracy is hypocritical at best.

Your "interpretation" of the statistics concerning the probability of which year is the warmest is clearly ignorant of the data. The percentage of probability cannot be taken in the inverse just as accurately as you attempted to do. The probability of 2014 being the warmest with all of the uncertainty is clear, but it is overwhelming clear that 2014 and 2010 would be the warmest two years on record.

The temperature is not just land based, but also includes surface temperatures over water.

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

Ocean Heat Content was equally impressive this year. For the first time, Heat Content went off the chart because it was so high. We continue to relentlessly gain heat in the oceans despite low solar activity. Solar activity, the driver of Earth's climate changes for thousands of years is no longer dominant in determining present climate change.



Sea Levels also saw record high levels during 2014 as well.

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Potato chip enthusiast.

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

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