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 Post subject: Climate migrants
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:17 pm 
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http://theweek.com/articles/582032/chin ... revolution



Climate change has already forced the resettlement of a quarter million people in China. Over the past 50 years, the average temperature in the central region of Xihaigu has risen by nearly 4 degrees Fahrenheit and rainfall has fallen by a third, making some areas uninhabitable. Until recently, residents relied on stored rainwater, and in dry years spent half their earnings trucking water just to stay alive. Local authorities finally gave up and relocated the entire town of Zhoutao to the nearby city of Hongsibu, and water was diverted from the Yellow River to accommodate them - all at a cost of some $1 billion. "Three main factors led to the ecological fragility of Xihaigu: nature, human impact, and climate change," Hohai University analyst Chen Shaojun told the Guardian. As Temperatures rise, many more Chinese may be forced to move.​

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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:39 pm 
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Good link. Here from the article is some vision of progress. How much difference that makes to the future remains to be seen.

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At a 2014 summit with President Obama, Xi pledged that China's emissions would peak by 2030 and then drop. Less than a year later, China is already ahead of that goal, with emissions now predicted to peak in 2025. In the first few months of 2015, China's coal use fell almost 8 percent compared with last year's, a reduction equal to all the carbon dioxide emitted by the U.K. over that period. Part of that drop came because of China's economic slowdown, but the country's new commitment to renewables means that even when the economy picks up, the extra power will come from greener sources. In 2009, China pledged to reduce its "carbon intensity," the ratio of emissions to energy produced, by 45 percent by 2020. It's now more than halfway there, so authorities have set themselves a new goal of 65 percent.


Unfortunately a growing economy with higher per capita energy use will offset a lot of that. Also I'd like to know the drop off rate of carbon emissions after 2025.


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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
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Of course other issues are at play but I fail to see how anyone cannot be concerned about this;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 81163.html

Climate change is real and it will be an increasing problem in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:28 pm 
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spot12345 wrote:
Of course other issues are at play but I fail to see how anyone cannot be concerned about this;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 81163.html

Climate change is real and it will be an increasing problem in the future.


This is why the US military is paying such close attention to the issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
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Good to hear from you Spot12345!
The root cause of overpopulation is what has lead to migrations from first economic effects, then kill cult invasion, then from wars caused by the root causes effects of increased hostility, anxiety, and depression.
After that, it is more and more from rapid heat rise effects, causing migrations, until there is no place on the surface to survive. Later, the sea and land heat gets the others.
It is a pipe dream that we can get out of this. We blew all the time we had. (You must count implementation time). There are very few ways that the human population can be rapidly reduced enough along with emissions, and in the time remaining for even a 50% chance out of "Thermageddon".

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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
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Best bet is to just be rich enough to buy land wherever happens to be livable.


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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
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HeritageFarm wrote:
Best bet is to just be rich enough to buy land wherever happens to be livable.


I believe that is the approach of one of the political parties in the US. Not mentioning any names or anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
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True, although in order to believe one must be rich enough to bylined wherever due to environmental issues is to at least partially admit ti oneself that there is an issue. These people appear to be unwilling to admit to there being an issue, much to the detriment of the environment.


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 Post subject: Re: Climate migrants
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True, although in order to believe one must be rich enough to bylined wherever due to environmental issues is to at least partially admit ti oneself that there is an issue. These people appear to be unwilling to admit to there being an issue, much to the detriment of the environment.


They do not admit such a thing in public, but when you look at the actions they are expecting money to prevail as always.

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