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Woman in hot water for giving cool water to pigs

On the eve of a court appearance, Krajnc is unapologetic about providing water to sweltering pigs in a truck on their way to the slaughterhouse on a hot day earlier this year.

TORONTO — On the eve of a court appearance, an Ontario woman is unapologetic about providing water to sweltering pigs in a truck on their way to the slaughterhouse on a hot day earlier this year.
Animal rights activist Anita Krajnc is scheduled to appear in court on Wednesday to face a mischief charge following a protest in June with her group, Toronto Pig Save, in Burlington, Ont.
As she and a friend waited for the pigs on a roadway median, the truck pulled up hauling the animals from Van Boekel Hog Farms to Fearman's Pork slaughterhouse about 100 kilometres away. Krajnc gave water from a bottle to the animals through slats in the truck's trailer.
The truck's driver, identified as Jeffrey Veldjesgraaf in court documents, got out of the truck and began arguing with the two women. The confrontation was captured on video.
"Have some compassion, have some compassion!" Krajnc yells in the video to the truck driver.
"Let's call the cops," the driver says, holding his phone.
"Call Jesus," Krajnc says as she continues to allow the pigs to drink the water.
"Yeah, no. What do you got in that water?" he asks.
"Water," Krajnc says.
"No, no, how do I know?" he says.
"Trust me," she says.
"Don't put it in there again," he says.
"If this pig is thirsty, they'll have water," she says.
"You do it again and I'll slap it out of your hands," he says.
"Go ahead, if you want an assault charge, go ahead! Film this, film this, film this!" Krajnc yells.
The driver then gets back in the truck and drives away.
The farm's owner, Eric Van Boekel, filed a complaint with police the next day.
"They can protest all they want — they have the right of freedom of speech that thousands of soldiers have died for," Van Boekel told The Canadian Press in an interview Tuesday. "I have no problem with them protesting; just leave my stuff alone."
In mid-September, a Halton Regional police officer served Krajnc with a summons. She was formally charged with mischief under $5,000 in October.
"I think it's an outrageous charge and goes against my deepest philosophical beliefs in terms of what all our obligations are, and to me the most important thing in life is to be of service to others and to someone or some animal who is suffering," she said.
"I will not admit guilt to what I did — it's the right thing to do and we will continue to do it."
Van Boekel, meantime, vowed he "will go to the full extent of the law to stop them."
"If you're driving down the road and you have your window down and you come to an intersection and I feel you need some water or a drink, how would you feel if I stick my hands in your personal space?" Van Boekel said.
"Those animals are well provided for and well cared for."
Krajnc is equally defiant. She says she and her friends with Toronto Pig Save will be providing water to pigs on their way to the same slaughterhouse on Thursday, a day after making her court appearance in Milton.

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MY VIEW

The food-animal-stock truck driver likely felt lousy — or perhaps even lousier somewhere deep down — about himself upon seeing his slaughter animals being treated humanely, something that to him may have implied he was a bit of a callously cruel f--- . My God, they were even actually thirsty; who’d have thunk it, eh?! — all as though they were living sentient beings. Thus (for those who may’ve missed the footage) he indignantly rushed out to the woman-of-conscience and essentially (indirectly?) condemned her for her compassion: “They’re not human beings, you dumb b-b-b-broad!” he obviously had another B-bomber title in mind for her but managed to stop short. He might’ve realized in time just how social media can rip people like him to PR shreds.


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OK, so these pigs were just coming off the farm, and here are members of "Pig Save" who just know these animals must already be "sweltering", and look, if you poke a bottle at a pig, it will take water, so it must be thirsty! Not curious. or anything else a normal pig might be. A hot day? You don't transport pigs on hot days because they suffer and the meat becomes unfit for consumption. Would any farm happily lose money?


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Cobie wrote:
OK, so these pigs were just coming off the farm, and here are members of "Pig Save" who just know these animals must already be "sweltering", and look, if you poke a bottle at a pig, it will take water, so it must be thirsty! Not curious. or anything else a normal pig might be. A hot day? You don't transport pigs on hot days because they suffer and the meat becomes unfit for consumption. Would any farm happily lose money?


Yes. Did you just say that Cobie? Yes!

I am so surprised on so many levels.


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Cobie wrote:
OK, so these pigs were just coming off the farm, and here are members of "Pig Save" who just know these animals must already be "sweltering", and look, if you poke a bottle at a pig, it will take water, so it must be thirsty! Not curious. or anything else a normal pig might be. A hot day? You don't transport pigs on hot days because they suffer and the meat becomes unfit for consumption. Would any farm happily lose money?


Yes. Did you just say that Cobie? Yes!

I am so surprised on so many levels.


Sadly, I'm not in the least surprised.

Little compassion around here ...

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Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse then claim to have fed one or more some type of poison? There are cases of claimed adulteration of products for either personal profit or to support a political political view, including terrorism. There would be a significant economic impact for many of the companies involved depending on the timing of the notice of tampering and even more chilling is the toll if there were no notice and people were sickened or killed as a result. This is why there cannot be random access to the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/12/scien ... minds.html

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Wayne Stollings wrote:
Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse then claim to have fed one or more some type of poison? There are cases of claimed adulteration of products for either personal profit or to support a political political view, including terrorism. There would be a significant economic impact for many of the companies involved depending on the timing of the notice of tampering and even more chilling is the toll if there were no notice and people were sickened or killed as a result. This is why there cannot be random access to the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/12/scien ... minds.html


She gave that pig water. Quite a simple act. And fact.


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Wayne Stollings wrote:
Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse then claim to have fed one or more some type of poison? There are cases of claimed adulteration of products for either personal profit or to support a political political view, including terrorism. There would be a significant economic impact for many of the companies involved depending on the timing of the notice of tampering and even more chilling is the toll if there were no notice and people were sickened or killed as a result. This is why there cannot be random access to the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/12/scien ... minds.html


She gave that pig water. Quite a simple act of compassion.


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Cobie wrote:
OK, so these pigs were just coming off the farm, and here are members of "Pig Save" who just know these animals must already be "sweltering", and look, if you poke a bottle at a pig, it will take water, so it must be thirsty! Not curious. or anything else a normal pig might be. A hot day? You don't transport pigs on hot days because they suffer and the meat becomes unfit for consumption. Would any farm happily lose money?



So are these pigs sweltering? Are they unconformable?


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Cobie wrote:
OK, so these pigs were just coming off the farm, and here are members of "Pig Save" who just know these animals must already be "sweltering", and look, if you poke a bottle at a pig, it will take water, so it must be thirsty! Not curious. or anything else a normal pig might be. A hot day? You don't transport pigs on hot days because they suffer and the meat becomes unfit for consumption. Would any farm happily lose money?



So are these pigs sweltering? Are they unconformable?


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animal-friendly wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse then claim to have fed one or more some type of poison? There are cases of claimed adulteration of products for either personal profit or to support a political political view, including terrorism. There would be a significant economic impact for many of the companies involved depending on the timing of the notice of tampering and even more chilling is the toll if there were no notice and people were sickened or killed as a result. This is why there cannot be random access to the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/12/scien ... minds.html


She gave that pig water. Quite a simple act. And fact.


The not so simple fact is what was in the water she gave the pig or pigs. There is no way to know in this situation and that unknown creates an identified lapse in food security and a potential problem of unknown magnitude.

When visiting Mexico a few years ago I was warned to not purchase bottled water from anyone and to purchase water only from established vendors with filtration systems. This was because the bottles of water were being refilled and "sealed" using a couple of drops of super glue. The bottle would seem legitimate but the contents would ruin your day. If someone wanted to alter the contents for harm it would not be hard to hide it from casual inspection.

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animal-friendly wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse then claim to have fed one or more some type of poison? There are cases of claimed adulteration of products for either personal profit or to support a political political view, including terrorism. There would be a significant economic impact for many of the companies involved depending on the timing of the notice of tampering and even more chilling is the toll if there were no notice and people were sickened or killed as a result. This is why there cannot be random access to the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/12/scien ... minds.html


She gave that pig water. Quite a simple act of compassion.


Which could really be a simple act of terrorism. How does the driver or anyone else know?

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[quote="Cobie"] OK, so these pigs were just coming off the farm, and here are members of "Pig Save" who just know these animals must already be "sweltering", ....

Yes, that is right Cobie.

"and look, if you poke a bottle at a pig, it will take water, "

even when it is not thirsty? Pig Save have posted video of thirsty pigs.

"it must be thirsty! Not curious. or anything else a normal pig might be".

Normal pigs are thirsty. As are humans. Normal pigs are also curious. As are humans. In order to satisfy human taste buds.......


A hot day? You don't transport pigs on hot days because they suffer and the meat becomes unfit for consumption.

Transporting en masse saves money. regardless of the season. This is why "Pig Save" has had to give them water.

They're nice people.


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[quote="Wayne Stollings"] Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse ...

The fact that they are thirsty is indication that these animals are in need. They often have long journeys. They are probably hungry too.

If one wanted to poison the food chain, it would be easier to go to go to a grocery store .....


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[quote="Wayne Stollings"] Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm


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Now for the reality check. What happens if one of these "compassionate" people giving water to random farm animals outside of the slaughterhouse ...


The fact that they are thirsty is indication that these animals are in need. They often have long journeys. They are probably hungry too.

If one wanted to poison the food chain, it would be easier to go to go to a grocery store .....


But it would have a greater impact at the slaughterhouse since only the inventory of one specific store would be impacted by "going to a grocery store", but the inventory of ANY product at ANY grocery store could be impacted by one pig being contaminated prior to entry.
Every product which could contain anything which came into contact with the contaminated pig would be suspect, which covers many stores and even restaurants and other food products.

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