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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:09 pm 
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He was a socialist, and that is reason enough, I suppose. His getting rid of 8,000 moslems was less than a drop in the bucket. Whatever happened to holding the line at Istanbul? Was the battle at Vienna for nothing? :roll:
Oh, there are some who are conned into thinking moslem is a "religion of peace" BS.

Once again ignorance and bigotry seem to be going hand in hand. The 8,000 "moslems" [sic] that you refer to were slaughtered just at Srebrenica which is just one of the many charges against Milosevic for his actions in Kosovo, Bosnia and Croatia. Under his direct orders, hundreds of thousands of non-Serbs were forcibly removed from their homes. Tens of thousands of women were raped as part of a campaign that Milosevic directed. Mass graves of non-Serbs have been discovered throughout that region that have still to be sorted out. Tens of thousands more killings happened as a result of Milosevic's actions which were not yet introduced into the hearings at the Hague.

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Oh, there are some who are conned into thinking moslem is a "religion of peace" BS.

Boy, you sound a lot like that idiot who hosts the 700 Club. Your misidentification (and mis-spelling) of the religion itself is the first clue that you're an ignorant racist. Islam is not a violent religion, certainly no more violent than any other religion out there. Granted, there are people abusing its name by committing acts of terror/violence, but to blame a religion with over a billion practitioners for the actions of a small few is absurd.

Your views are both based in ignorance and are highly offensive. Several here have asked that I ban you because you have repeatedly spewed such hateful and bigoted garbage before. I will not ban you for your beliefs and your expression of them, but I will dog you every time you post here. I encourage others post their opinions here as well so that we can see what the community thinks. I view interactions with bigots like this as potentially educational and can help others see the evil that exists in the world.

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Can I enter into other aspects of his lifestyle that display hypocrisy?


As long as it is not a direct personal attack and is something presented on the board as a subject, it should be fair game. If you or anyone else goes a bit too far there would be a warning, of course.


But mostly because the admin finds his line of thinking repulsive. So no personal attacks boys...I mean...you can say he sounds like an idiot, but can't say he is an idiot...you know...stuff like that.

LMFAO@the real hypocrites.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:23 pm 
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RF wrote:
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He was a socialist, and that is reason enough, I suppose. His getting rid of 8,000 moslems was less than a drop in the bucket. Whatever happened to holding the line at Istanbul? Was the battle at Vienna for nothing? :roll:
Oh, there are some who are conned into thinking moslem is a "religion of peace" BS.

Once again ignorance and bigotry seem to be going hand in hand. The 8,000 "moslems" [sic] that you refer to were slaughtered just at Srebrenica which is just one of the many charges against Milosevic for his actions in Kosovo, Bosnia and Croatia. Under his direct orders, hundreds of thousands of non-Serbs were forcibly removed from their homes. Tens of thousands of women were raped as part of a campaign that Milosevic directed. Mass graves of non-Serbs have been discovered throughout that region that have still to be sorted out. Tens of thousands more killings happened as a result of Milosevic's actions which were not yet introduced into the hearings at the Hague.

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Oh, there are some who are conned into thinking moslem is a "religion of peace" BS.

Boy, you sound a lot like that idiot who hosts the 700 Club. Your misidentification (and mis-spelling) of the religion itself is the first clue that you're an ignorant racist. Islam is not a violent religion, certainly no more violent than any other religion out there. Granted, there are people abusing its name by committing acts of terror/violence, but to blame a religion with over a billion practitioners for the actions of a small few is absurd.

Your views are both based in ignorance and are highly offensive. Several here have asked that I ban you because you have repeatedly spewed such hateful and bigoted garbage before. I will not ban you for your beliefs and your expression of them, but I will dog you every time you post here. I encourage others post their opinions here as well so that we can see what the community thinks. I view interactions with bigots like this as potentially educational and can help others see the evil that exists in the world.

-josh


Can I enter into other aspects of his lifestyle that display hypocrisy?


As long as it is not a direct personal attack and is something presented on the board as a subject, it should be fair game. If you or anyone else goes a bit too far there would be a warning, of course.


But mostly because the admin finds his line of thinking repulsive. So no personal attacks boys...I mean...you can say he sounds like an idiot, but can't say he is an idiot...you know...stuff like that.

LMFAO@the real hypocrites.


No, that is the basic guidelines for anyone concerning anything posted on this board, but you are free to believe whatever you wish based on whatever level if ignorance you wish to use. If the administration felt this line was repulsive enough to bring out any hypocricy in our actions, it would be much easier to just ban him as was requested. :wink:

Maybe you can come up with a better idea if you think harder on the subject. :roll: [-X

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:28 pm 
What has ease got to do with it? You might think it is more fun to not ban him, but to jeer at his beliefs. The ease of this action or that is hardly the final word on what the action will be. The "no personal attacks" game played by childish rules might hold a lot of attraction...an attraction that overrides mere consideration of ease.

It might even be that the concept of free speech is deemed important enough to support, and so that overrides a desire to ban him regardless of the ease of that action.

But none of that speaks to the hypocracy I was talking about. So you're lost again. Is it because you are not free?
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What has ease got to do with it? You might think it is more fun to not ban him, but to jeer at his beliefs.


Which would be an unsupported opinion on your part. Such unsupported assumptions seem to be becoming a fairly common basis for your posts.

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The ease of this action or that is hardly the final word on what the action will be.


No, since we have a guideline for the operation of this board which is much more complex than ease. I cannot see what the statement of the obvious and previously discussed goals accomplishes in this post.

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The "no personal attacks" game played by childish rules might hold a lot of attraction...an attraction that overrides mere consideration of ease.


You may think it childish, and if you care to be more "adult" and undertake a personal attack or two you are free to try your hand.

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It might even be that the concept of free speech is deemed important enough to support, and so that overrides a desire to ban him regardless of the ease of that action.


That would be the point of the prior statements.

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But none of that speaks to the hypocracy I was talking about.


This seems to be another of the unsupported opinions, but since you have not shown the ability to explain what you consider to be hypocrisy as opposed to seemingly agree with what is not by repeating my statements it would be anyone's guess as to what you are trying to imply.

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RF, if you have something to say about the thread, please do so. If not I am going to do as I believe others do and ignore the unconnected ramblings.

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What has ease got to do with it? You might think it is more fun to not ban him, but to jeer at his beliefs.


Which would be an unsupported opinion on your part. Such unsupported assumptions seem to be becoming a fairly common basis for your posts.


No...it's a fact. I didn't assume anything except a possibility.

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The ease of this action or that is hardly the final word on what the action will be.


No, since we have a guideline for the operation of this board which is much more complex than ease. I cannot see what the statement of the obvious and previously discussed goals accomplishes in this post.


I can't see how you think that disjointed response addresses my statement. Again, it's a fact that people don't choose their actions by considering only the relative ease of the choices available.

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The "no personal attacks" game played by childish rules might hold a lot of attraction...an attraction that overrides mere consideration of ease.


You may think it childish, and if you care to be more "adult" and undertake a personal attack or two you are free to try your hand.


Since I think it is childish, how would I be showing maturity by playing at it?

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It might even be that the concept of free speech is deemed important enough to support, and so that overrides a desire to ban him regardless of the ease of that action.


That would be the point of the prior statements.


Then reasonably, it might override the fear of appearing hypocritical.

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But none of that speaks to the hypocracy I was talking about.


This seems to be another of the unsupported opinions, but since you have not shown the ability to explain what you consider to be hypocrisy...


Well Wayne...if what I consider to be hypocrisy hasn't been explained...how do you figure you were addressing it?

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....as opposed to seemingly agree with what is not by repeating my statements it would be anyone's guess as to what you are trying to imply.


Say what? Are you trying to say something? Do you deliberately go for the effect of "vague"?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:09 am 
Wayne Stollings wrote:
RF, if you have something to say about the thread, please do so. If not I am going to do as I believe others do and ignore the unconnected ramblings.


Are you saying I'm off topic?

What do you mean "something to say about the thread"?

Is that an admonishment to start talking about how Johnny sounds like an idiot or something?
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RF wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
RF, if you have something to say about the thread, please do so. If not I am going to do as I believe others do and ignore the unconnected ramblings.


Are you saying I'm off topic?

What do you mean "something to say about the thread"?

Is that an admonishment to start talking about how Johnny sounds like an idiot or something?

See? This is why I love having an Open Forum... I just split off your little argument into its own thread so that the other one wouldn't get hijacked. You guys can go at it as long as you want over in this thread.

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As far as I am concerned this is a dead thread. You know the old saying about never trying to teach a pig to sing because it wastes your time and annoys the pig? I have wasted enough time and annoyed RF enough to see that nothing is sinking in from my efforts.

BTW, I thought of splitting that off last night but did not get around to it due to that thing we were discussing. I wish I knew the answer to that issue but it is too random in application.

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