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here are the IQ scores of US Presidents:

that last one is wrong....more like 45(chuckle)

147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald R. Ford (R)
176 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald W. Reagan (R)
98 George H. W. Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
91 George W. Bush (R)

http://www.lovenstein.org/report/


ps: here's what they say about our current esteemed leader.

No president other than Carter (D) has released his actual IQ, 176. Among comments made concerning the specific testing of President GW Bush, his low ratings were due to his apparent difficulty to command the English language in public statements, his limited use of vocabulary (6,500 words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for other presidents), his lack of scholarly achievements other than a basic MBA, and an absence of any body of work which could be studied on an intellectual basis.

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No, there's no such thing as a normal distribution in intelligence. There is in the scoring of IQ tests. Two fundamentally distinct things.



uh - it is known in advance. That's exactly how it is done.



Why?



percentage points? percentage of what?



Now didn't you just say this couldn't be the case because "the outcome would have to be known in advance in order to construct the scale."?



All statistical measures approximate. It's not a dirty word.

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It is low, but it seems accurate to me.

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"Yes like I said it all boils down to morals. What you think is right doesn't make a person wrong because they think different " X-Black

I don't believe that. No matter what you think of the guy, he would have to have an I.Q. higher than that.

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"Yes like I said it all boils down to morals. What you think is right doesn't make a person wrong because they think different " X-Black

I do notice that Carter and Bush's IQs do fall in line with the unemployment percentages when they were in office. 15% to 4.6% is more like 4 to 1 then 2 to 1, but the general up and down remains the same.

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I don't know what your problem is but I bet its hard to pronounce.

The scoring does not measure anything in your opinion? Odd, it does nothing and is followed so closely ....



No, the outcome is not known in advance or the range would be within the desired range. There is an estimated outcome that works for the largest part of the curve.



What part of "to maintain the curve" is confusing? There is a minimal level of measurement on the lower end to offset those scores higher than the theoretical max.



Percentage points of 150, the point I was mentioning. You know 153 IQ points would be 2% over the 150 point.



Because to construct an accurate scale the outcome would have to be known and the scale adjusted accordingly.



It depends on how far off the approximation is from the actual. It also in interesting that the "definition" you referenced earlier is now an approximate definition ....

Now, if we were to look at what was said concerning the lower IQ levels this tangent is significantly disconnected.

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To maintain the curve based solely on the IQs listed for the presidents the upper range of 182 (Clinton which is still lower than the writer Vos Savant) would leave a lower measurable range of 18. The lowest level I have seen referenced for a measurable IQ is ~40 which would limit the upper range to ~160 if you have a the correct curve. Again, I blew that curve with my first series of tests back in grade school.

Of course there is the attempt to ignore the measurement created by the tests themselves. Those scores can be used to compare people from different areas/eras if the same tests are used.

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OK. I admit you had me there for a bit. Good one. You're just making this all up as you go along, aren't you?









Aren't you?

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MOI!? Would I do something like that just for a discussion?

Am this not face of honest man? <tilting head to side and looking angelic> (Quote from ancient cartoon in Heavy Metal )

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