EnviroLink Forum

Community • Ecology • Connection
It is currently Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:49 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: transplant to Kansas
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:59 pm 
Offline
New User
New User

Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:10 pm
Posts: 4
I have searched far and wide for help. I landed here. Help me.

Have any of you plumbed your own grey water system? I have not but would like to hear some tips from anyone with first hand experience. I live in a rural area and I intend to use the water for the yard (and garden). Now I collect rain water in a small pond and a barrel. I am working on a bicycle pump to distribute the pond water. Buckets are heavy and electricity isn't free.

thanks!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:10 pm 
Offline
Member with over 1000 posts!
Member with over 1000 posts!
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:49 pm
Posts: 6178
Location: Dame Glooy'd Sneefrugs
Welcome to the board!

I've never plumbed a system myself, currently we use ten gallon buckets and haul the water outside that way.. a wagon helps. :) Good luck in your quest! Just a suggestion, you might want to post your question in the enviromental room as not everyone reads the introduction posts.

_________________
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish he didn't trust me so much. - Mother Theresa Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:22 pm 
Offline
New User
New User

Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:10 pm
Posts: 4
Thanks origam for the tips. How do you collect the water in the buckets?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:22 pm 
Offline
Member with over 1000 posts!
Member with over 1000 posts!
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:49 pm
Posts: 6178
Location: Dame Glooy'd Sneefrugs
ponfie wrote:
Thanks origam for the tips. How do you collect the water in the buckets?

When we turn the faucets on to warm up the water we've got gallon jugs we catch that water in. During showers and bath we plug up the drains and scoop that water out with the bigger buckets. The washing machine has a hose that runs outside during warmer time (we disconnect it during cold weather so it doesn't freeze). We're pretty strict on what goes down the pipes since we're on septic.

_________________
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish he didn't trust me so much. - Mother Theresa Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:42 pm 
Offline
New User
New User

Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:10 pm
Posts: 4
I appreciate the details. Every little bit helps.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: transplant to Kansas
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:58 am 
Offline
EnviroLink Volunteer
EnviroLink Volunteer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:45 pm
Posts: 20354
Location: Southeastern US
ponfie wrote:
I have searched far and wide for help. I landed here. Help me.

Have any of you plumbed your own grey water system? I have not but would like to hear some tips from anyone with first hand experience. I live in a rural area and I intend to use the water for the yard (and garden). Now I collect rain water in a small pond and a barrel. I am working on a bicycle pump to distribute the pond water. Buckets are heavy and electricity isn't free.

thanks!


Here are some links that may help.

http://www.oasisdesign.net/greywater/misinfo/index.htm

http://www.oasisdesign.net/greywater/law/index.htm

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/BHCV ... enDocument

A small windmill could power a hand type pump, which are available commercially, or even your bicycle pump. We used drums to hold water for interim storage after the collection of rainwater on the farm. It was in the mountains so we used gravity feed a lot. Even when we had to pump water into the drum we used gravity for distribution.

I tried to get an employer to use a rain water system I designed that would have just been plumbed to the toilets as there were laws against using rainwater for consumption. They discounted it as being too expensive until the well was determined to have insufficient capacity and they had to have water brought in to supplement AND the water was too rich in iron so they still had to use bottled drinking water on top of that.

I have a couple of rainwater containers for watering plants now. I set them up so I had a gravity feed to water with or fill containers for transport to farther areas.

_________________
With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer


"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:59 am 
Offline
EnviroLink Volunteer
EnviroLink Volunteer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:45 pm
Posts: 20354
Location: Southeastern US
Oh, and welcome to the board :wink:

_________________
With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer


"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:11 am 
Offline
Member with over 1000 posts!
Member with over 1000 posts!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:59 am
Posts: 2147
Location: Central Colorado
Hi, ponfie, and welcome to the Envirolink. I had Terraform construction in 1994-5 and designed greywater systems and rainwater catchment systems and combos. My Earthship takes roof rainwater in covered gutters to a pair of 4" ABS foam covered through the top tire course. It goes into a 425 gallon recycled pickup truck water tank on a platform 2' up I designed for it. It has a big hose coming out the cabinet for quick filling of 3 gallon waterers. Near the top intake is a 2 1/4" overflow caulked in to the hole drilled through the polypropylene tank. This goes to a floor drain and to out at the top of a rock pit using flex 3" drain, and a screen to prevent bugs and critters getting in. There is also the initial regular trap. There are screens in the gutter outlets, and at the tank top. A 12 VDC Shurflow pump takes water out of a 1/2" polypropylene line drilled in through the top, a screen on the end and internal stretched metal clothes hanger for rigidity. The poly switches to red copper as it goes under the floor to a T and total filter for drinking water in a vanity, then to the front main garden with drip lines. The electric is two 350 Ah 6VDC hooked in series as 12VDC, direct through a switch to the pump and also to a 300 Watt sinewave inverter and three CF lights and three outlets, for a small TV or guitar amps. The copper water line is ground.
The greywater systems I designed needed two large tanks--one below floor level with an overflow to a blackwater septic tank. Toilet tank type activators would turn on/off a Shurflow to pump grey water through a sand filter to and upper tank. The upper tank could gravity feed interior gardens, and go through another more powerful pump to 20 micron, 10 micron, 5 micron and 2 micron filters, a charcoal filter and under an ultraviolet solar powered (120VAC from inverter, batteries, charge control and solar panel/wind generator) to a pressure tank. Note that code requires not using this household grey water outside, and over flow to a black water system(pathogens can be transferred to someone in your yard, even with no trespassing signs). Basically two drain systems, with "Y' valves, etc. A 1500 sq. ft. roof in an area of 15" rain per year and 2-2500 gallon tanks could meet the water needs of a family of three, except in a drought where water would have to be bought. The grey water grows plants to eat, and a compost toilet with required black water overflow drain, and "Y's" to separate rinse water from initial dirty water which goes to the blackwater septic system. This is to save on cleaning the filters so often. The total greywater recycling systems must have their filters cleaned and replaced excessively and the whole system flushed too much, because of grease, detergent chemicals buildup, and pathogenic pollution buildup. I would suggest going to the library and studying up on plumbing. Avoid PVC--one pound vaporized can kill up to 400 grown men in 15 seconds or cause a thousand cases of a variety of cancers. It is not legal anymore for intake water, except a special sealed kind used in wells and septic drain/vent.
With ponds there are a variety of ways to get the water to the house holding tank, from solar/wind slow pumps to gas powered pumps used as necessary. Rainwater catchment must be from a non-toxic roof and may require some ingenuity. My roof is terra cotta colored acrylic.
Any more questions feel free to ask, knowledge without being spread is selfish. :)

_________________
"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group