"It is difficult for you to recognize others' concern because your own is limited to AR philosophy. If someone doesn't share your views, it doesn't register with you that they are concerned. This is a shame."
I understand what you're saying and it might be true with some people, but not with me. I can recognize concern for animals in others even if they don't share my philosophies.
So you have a special power to detect "true" animal concerns based on postings to a forum? I hope you use this power only for good ...
If you actually posted here to talk about your concern for animals, I would never question it.
Well, the problem is this board crashed and several years of prior discussions were lost, which those of us, like Fosgate, who were here before have not rehashed old postings just to be typing.
But I don't see you and most of the others here doing that. The only thing I see is AR bashing. If I wrote something in the animal forum right now, I would get a refute almost instantly.
Only if it were in need of bashing, which might be the case with a pure AR statement, but not with an AW statement that also can show concerns for animals.
But nobody else has written here in days. So it is to my understanding that the majority of the people who post here, view the forum nearly every day and only reply to debate when someone says something pro-veg*an or pro-AR.
They reply if there is something that piques their interest. the only problem with pro-veg*n diet statements are when they misrepresent the diets. There is nothing wrong with either diet as long as they are balanced and proper supplements are taken, which is the same for any diet. If there is a morality benefit presented that can be a point of contention.
What do you think? Is my conclusion totally off or what?
Pretty much ..
Just out of curiosity, how does environmentalism tie into anti-AR?
That is Josh's call. I fought him tooth and nail over the combination of the two as I was involved with the separate environmental board when they combined the two (more history lessons can come form this) and I had no interest in the AR discussions. Until I saw some misrepresentations and got some things cleared up in another aspect of the involvement, and I was sucked in to trying to correct those misrepresentations.
Is it just because of this website or are there some other major elements involved?
My vote is that it is just this website as the only connection between the two is when the AR movement tries to use an environmental issue to further their goals instead of allowing a mitigation of the problem.