EnviroLink Forum

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

Approving 31 new oil drilling projects, and allowing in millions more people in an already overpopulated US is no way to reduce emissions. Another corporate bought environmental phony.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

True, but the lesser of the two evils that were put before us.

I used to vote 3rd party if I didn't like either, but I realized it's more important to vote for the lesser of the two evils.

It turns out the lesser of evils was trump. At least he would have kept legal and illegal immigration a lot lower. No one has the courage to face the elephant in the room of overpopulation and the methane monster it has awoken. We need to close the borders, stop all immigration and institute permit-only to have kids, with illegal children and their entire families eradicated from the gene pool. It is very unfortunate that emissions should have stopped circa 1950. When the methane blows in a few years, it will be a world destroyers with 100 million year recovery period. IMHO.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

I respectfully disagree.

Getting rid of controls on pollution, raping the national parks, etc., is a lot worse than population that is moving from one place to another.

Trump added more pollution, immigration doesn't add people, it just moves them from one place to another.

And I read that the so-called conservative media has overblown the population problem anyway.

1966 Martin Luther King Jr, clergyman and activist (1929-1968)

“Unlike plagues of the dark ages or contemporary diseases we do not yet understand, the modern plague of overpopulation is soluble by means we have discovered and with resources we possess. What is lacking is not sufficient knowledge of the solution but universal consciousness of the gravity of the problem and education of the billions who are its victims.”

Isaac Asimov, author (1920-1992)

“…democracy can not survive overpopulation. Human dignity cannot survive it. Convenience and decency cannot survive it. As you put more and more people into the world, the value of life not only declines, it disappears. It doesn’t matter if someone dies. The more people there are, the less one individual matters.”

“Which is the greater danger — nuclear warfare or the population explosion? The latter absolutely! To bring about nuclear war, someone has to do something; someone has to press a button. To bring about destruction by overcrowding, mass starvation, anarchy, the destruction of our most cherished values-there is no need to do anything. We need only do nothing except what comes naturally — and breed. And how easy it is to do nothing.”

Jacques Cousteau, ocean explorer and conservationist (1910-1997)

“We must alert and organise the world’s people to pressure world leaders to take specific steps to solve the two root causes of our environmental crises — exploding population growth and wasteful consumption of irreplaceable resources. Overconsumption and overpopulation underlie every environmental problem we face today.”

Adrian Hayes, polar explorer and adventurer, Population Matters Patron (born 1957)
“I’ve seen melting ice caps with my own eyes and got very wet in the process, but it is pointless campaigning against climate change or to ‘save the Arctic’ without addressing the root cause behind it and virtually every other environmental issue we face: our unsustainable numbers on this planet. That is the real ‘inconvenient truth’.”

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

Which is why the world needs a one-child policy. But it will never-ever happen.

Corporations need never-ending increasing profits, and that won't happen without never-ending increasing population. And since large corporations control the media, there is zero hope.

We are on the road to extinction. We might even be past the point where we can be saved at the last minute by some unforeseen discovery.

Bob

Even zero people born will not stop it, and zero emissions were needed 1950 at the latest, to prevent Arctic Sea ice collapse, 1980. It was bad enough in advanced biology to have a stimulated mammalian population crash by 2050, in my 1967 work, but very advanced geology held the horror story, and my instrument flying ability helped to combine the data sources. I walked the talk, built the solar Earthship all trades and professions last century, one child only. It never helped, all the leading, all the writing, all the Earth Day booth operations, nothing has changed, except the awful geologic uplift since the Eemian of 700m deep massive methane clathrate deposits to only 50 m deep. Of course, you have to understand the methane clathrate at that depth is similar to the silver fulminate I made as a smart kid with his own laboratory in the basement. Or read Clive Cussler's "Fire Ice".

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein