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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:04 pm 
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The biggest issue for vegans is to get the ideas exposed to as many people as possible, there are lots of ways to do that, I feel as though if we were to include veganism with a bunch of other stuff that also needs lots of exposure then if veganism doesn't happen to be their thing in that moment another idea might catch, which if veganism is in the ride there's a better chance they will be able to digest the idea of why they should be vegan...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:21 pm 
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Although it's OK for others, the things I don't like about veganism:
  1. I have the teeth of an omnivore, the digestive enzymes of an omnivore, the physical digestive tract of an omnivore and the dietary needs of an omnivore
  2. The lie that says we can save the planet by not eating any meat.

Let me explain #1
There are zillions of acres of grasslands:
  • Growing veggie crops on grasslands is very, very difficult. It takes tons of fertilizer, tons of herbicides, zillions of gallons of polluting fuel for the farm machinery, and zillions of gallons of our most precious resource, fresh water.
  • The grassland ecosystem can exist and provide food with nothing but what mother nature provides. The grazing animals feed the grass and the grass feeds the grazers. Example: The bison herds in North America when the Europeans got here were uncountable. Nobody had to water, fertilize, herbicide or tend to them in any way at all.
  • According to Cornell University and the Environmental Defense Fund, "People tend to equate methane with cow farts (though their burps are worse), but we may be pointing our fingers in all the wrong places, according to a new study. The production of ammonia for fertilizer may result in up to 100 times more emissions than has been previously estimated for this sector." https://earther.gizmodo.com/just-one-ti ... 1835376030

To me the problem with beef is feeding them corn. The beef isn't the polluter, stuffing them full of corn at the end of their lives to make them fatter (heavier) so they can sell more pounds of beef at the going rate is the culprit. The feed-lot not only uses the fertilized, herbicided, and watered corn to raise the price of the beef sold, it also makes the meat less healthy for the humans who eat it. The corn increases the Omega 6 fatty acids, decreases the Omega 3 fatty acids and leaches nutrients like conjugated linoleic acid from the meat. So the solution is to eat 100% grass-fed (and grass-finished) beef and/or other grazing animals.

So why are the grain lobbies and vegans spreading the lie that eating meat ruins the environment?

For the grain corporations, it's to make more profits.

For the vegans I suspect it is to convince others to quit eating meat.

Now what you eat is your own business. If a vegan wants to deny their omnivorous body because they feel it's wrong for them to eat a living animal, that's fine with me. But if they lie and tell us that eating a veggie diet is better for the environment, I am opposed.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm 
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In my population studies, the Earth at one time could have sustained 3 billion vegans at sedentary starvation level. Now overpopulation over the past 140 years has induced a methane turnover event from the pollution of overpopulation's demands. and the long term is gone. Perhaps 1% can survive to restore the biosphere, if there is a man made Toba Event soon enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USDCATD ... e=emb_logo

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:27 pm 
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Overpopulation is DEFINITELY the cause of most of our environmental problems.

We are like an algae bloom in a pond --- in slower motion.


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