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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:29 pm 
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Human species is the only defective species on earth.......It was given a brain with which it invented machines running on electricity and oil which has led to destruction of forests, rivers, oceans, atmosphere and decimation of millions of land and marine species..

This planet didn't even belong to humans........Humans have existed on earth for a much shorter duration than other species........Humans have existed in large numbers for an even shorter duration (only after industrialization).

Other species existed on earth in very large numbers for millions of years without destroying the planet........Other species were the real inhabitants, the real owners of earth........Human species was just a predatory guest on earth.
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Industrial humans have destroyed the planet and fully deserve the punishment that is coming for them.........The tragedy is that millions of other species got decimated for no fault of theirs.
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How can one species get food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services on a small planet which is just 40,000 km in circumference when millions of other species got only food from earth for millions of years???

Height of Insanity........Insanity raised to the power of Infinity.
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Living in industrial society was not even an option.......Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.......Humans lived in food searching society for hundreds of thousands of years.......In food producing society for about 10,000 years.......Consumer goods producing industrial society is the anomaly /aberration........Industrial society running on electricity and oil has existed for just about hundred years.......Duration of industrial society is so small that it is almost zero percent of total human existence on earth.
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And the way we are acting, some alive today may see the end of the species.


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A brakeless car is speeding towards a cliff........Instead of trying to stop the car the passengers are fighting over who would drive the car for the next five years........The planet is dying and gasping for last breath........Instead of stopping industrial governments people are debating who should run the country for next five years -- Congress or BJP , Democrats or Republicans.

Elections are the biggest fraud of industrial society.

Voting is not your right........Voting is your crime.
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Industrial system is run by the urban population.........Urban population remains the same before and after elections........All evil corporations, institutions and organizations keep running the same way before and after elections.

Nothing changes after elections.

IMF, World Bank, Weapon Industry, Pharmaceutical Industry, Monsanto, Nuclear Industry, Oil Industry and hundreds of other evil industries keep running the same way before and after elections.

Choosing between two political parties is like choosing between cruise missiles and drone attacks.

All industrial governments are equally harmful, destructive and evil........All political parties are equally harmful, destructive and evil.

Industrial governments have destroyed the planet with Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Construction Industry, Electricity Industry, Oil Industry, Automobile Industry, Rail Industry, Airline Industry, Shipping Industry, Meat and Fishing Industry.

You have to stop the system, not keep it running year after year with election after election.

The entire industrial society is criminal.........Industrial governments are criminal........Industrial citizens are criminal........Urban jobs and professions are criminal.

Living in industrial society was not even an option.......Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.......Humans lived in food searching society for hundreds of thousands of years.......In food producing society for about 10,000 years.......Consumer goods producing industrial society is the anomaly /aberration........Industrial society running on electricity and oil has existed for just about hundred years.......Duration of industrial society is so small that it is almost zero percent of total human existence on earth.

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"Food Searching Species" did not destroy environment in millions of years........"Food Producing Society" destroyed very little environment in 10,000 years........"Consumer Goods Producing Society" has destroyed the planet in just 100 years.

How can one species get food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services on a small planet which is just 40,000 km in circumference when millions of other species got only food from earth for millions of years???

Height of Insanity........Insanity raised to the power of Infinity.
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The solution to save environment has been known for millions of years but the genius people of industrial society are still searching for a solution.......A new solution.......As if a new solution is possible........It is ridiculous to talk about saving environment after destroying exponential extra environment for thousands of consumer goods and services.

Millions of other species did not destroy environment for millions of years because they destroyed environment only for food......That was the solution.

Hunter_Gatherer society did not destroy environment for hundreds of thousands of years because it destroyed environment only for food.......That was the solution.

Agrarian society destroyed very little environment in 10,000 years because it destroyed environment primarily for food, clothing, shelter........That was the solution.

Industrial society running on electricity and oil has destroyed this planet in hundred years because it destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.

Only a non-industrial society can save environment........Get this into your head.

Expecting to save environment without stopping industrial activity is like expecting to save a burning house without putting out the fire.
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Bring this technology.......Bring that technology.

A gunman is shooting people dead.......How do you save the victims of shooting.......By stopping the shooting Or by changing the technology of the gun???

Industrial society pretending to save environment is like the Cigarette Industry pretending to save Lungs........Liquor Industry pretending to save Liver........Fast Food Industry pretending to save Health........Weapon Industry pretending to save Peace........Petrol pretending to save a world on Fire.
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Solar will save environment......BioFuel will save environment.......Recycling will save environment.......Wind Energy will save environment........Renewable will save environment.

Did any of these save environment for millions of years before industrialization???

Every method of energy production destroys environment........You merely replace one kind of environmental destruction with another kind of environmental destruction.

Production of billions / trillions of solar panels would require billions of tonnes of metals and minerals.......This would require mining industry on a very large scale, destruction of forests, mountains, fertile soil.

Production of energy by any method destroys environment.

Use of energy produced by any method by millions of industries and corporations destroys many times more environment.

How can solar energy stop destruction of environment by Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Construction Industry, Automobile and Rail Industry, Airline and Shipping Industry, Meat and Fishing Industry???

Such Idiocy and Lunacy.
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It's all about short-term corporate profits, with no care about the future.

It's the down-side of corporationalism.


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Industrial society is a lunatic society which thinks species are lost when they become extinct........Species are lost much before extinction........Extinction is only the last stage of loss of species........Species were lost when they got decimated........Species were lost when their populations declined from billions and millions before industrialization to thousands and hundreds after industrialization.

We have already lost more than 99.9% of life on earth........Millions of other species have been decimated........Human species is the only one that hasn't been decimated.......More than 99.9% of species have been decimated.

Millions of land species were lost when billions of acres of forests were destroyed by industrial activity........Mining Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Logging Industry, Construction Industry, Millions of kilometers of road and rail networks, Hundreds of thousands of power plants and oil refineries, Hundreds of thousands of ports and airports.

Millions of marine species were decimated and lost because of Industrial Fishing , Billions of tonnes of industrial chemicals and waste , Acidification and warming of oceans , Oxygen deprived dead zones in oceans , Bleaching and death of coral reefs , Oil spills and billions of tonnes of plastic waste in oceans.

All life except human life has been decimated.

All life sustaining things have been destroyed........Forests, Rivers, Oceans, Atmosphere.
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More than 99.99% of collapse of this planet has already happened.

Only human collapse is yet to happen.

And it is going to come with lightning speed now.
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Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.

Humans lived in food searching society for hundreds of thousands of years.......In food producing society for about 10,000 years.......Consumer goods producing industrial society is the anomaly /aberration........Industrial society running on electricity and oil has existed for just about hundred years.......Duration of industrial society is so small that it is almost zero percent of total human existence on earth.

The entire industrial society is criminal.........Industrial governments are criminal........Industrial citizens are criminal........Urban jobs and professions are criminal.
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How can one species get food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services on a small planet which is just 40,000 km in circumference when millions of other species got only food from earth for millions of years???

Height of Insanity........Insanity raised to the power of Infinity.


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Industrial society first created extra professions for its urban population which is not producing food which was the main occupation for thousands of years before industrialization.......These extra professions created extra problems.......So industrial society created even more extra professions to solve the problems created by extra professions which can never be solved because industrialization itself is the cause of problems.

Do you understand the madness???

Hundreds of thousands of Courts.........Millions of Lawyers and Judges..........Millions of Crimes.......Millions of Criminals........Hundreds of thousands of Police Stations.......Millions of Policemen.........Hundreds of thousands of Prisons........Millions of Prisoners........All this madness came with industrialization and urbanization.

Pre-industrial society was free of this madness.

Industrial society which runs on electricity and oil has existed for only hundred years.........Man lived in non-industrial societies for hundreds of thousands of years.

For 10,000 years before industrialization man lived in small villages.........There was just one main occupation - farming / producing food.........How many crimes would you expect in such a society???.........How many kinds of crimes were possible in such a society???

If any crime happened in agrarian society the Village Elders / Panchayat decided what punishment was to be given.

In industrial society billions of people are living in Mega Cities.......There are hundreds of professions.

Extra professions = Extra crimes.
Hundreds of professions = Millions of crimes.

Money is being exchanged millions of times every second in industrial society.......This has resulted in millions of financial crimes........There is possibility of scam, fraud and corruption every time money is given or taken.
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Hundreds of professions and millions of jobs were created in the name of solving the problems of industrial society which can never be solved.

Cancer, Diabetes, Obesity, Global Wars, Environmental Destruction.........All these problems of industrial society are unsolvable because industrialization itself is the cause of problems.

Cancer came with billions of tonnes of industrial carcinogens in Air, Water and Food.
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Diabetes and Obesity came with desk jobs, billions of tonnes of packaged / processed food.

War Industry came with Weapon Industry, Transportation industry, Communication industry, Banking industry.

Environmental destruction came with millions of industries and corporations.

Millions of people are working in Pharmaceutical industry, Hospital Industry, Insurance Industry and Fitness industry pretending to cure cancer, diabetes and obesity.........Millions of people are working in peace organizations and environmental organizations pretending to stop wars and environmental destruction.
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Issues inherent to human society will obviously magnify where populations are at their highest or most dense. This is nothing new.

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The hopium is trying to reverse what has been induced, by reverting back to low impact agricultural society. Even zero emissions and zero people will not stop it. Using 40 years for CO2 momentum, and 1980 the year documented as starting Arctic summer ice collapse, it should have been zero emissions globally 1940, to avoid the tipping point of methane turnover as a geophysical effect. Hindsight is great, blame games take off the pressure to actually do something like hard work and sacrifice. This is an omnicide event most similar to the Permian Great Dying. There may well be a nuclear war to produce a winter long enough to refreeze the ice cover on the ESAS, but without precautions either a radiological global disaster or the return of the methane monster if not enough HGHG removal is done fast enough.

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Food, farmer and farmers protests in India.........Industrial governments pretending to help farmers is like industrial slaughter houses pretending to help animals........Industrial governments have slaughtered villages........Industrial governments have destroyed more than one hundred thousand villages of India after independence.........Industrial governments have destroyed more than 20% villages of India after independence.........Every year thousands of more villages are being destroyed in the name of vikas, development.

Development maniacs.........where will you grow your food after destroying villages with vikas, development, industrialization???.........climate change created by development will destroy all agriculture/ food production in coming years.........climate change created by development has made global weather extreme, irregular, unpredictable.........agriculture requires regularity of weather.........it requires heat, cold and rain at the right time and in right measure.

Development has destroyed farmers, farming, farmland.

Industrial activity is destroying all sources of drinking water / irrigation water.........glaciers, rivers, ponds, lakes, ground water.

if industrial activity is not stopped right now humans will cease to exist on earth.

no food........no water.
end of man on earth.
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Thousands of more villages are being destroyed every year .by highways, expressways, mining industry, manufacturing industry, construction industry, ever expanding cities, power plants and oil refineries, ports and airports.

This crime is called progress, development.

Destroy more than one lakh villages of Kisan with vikas, development and then shout "Jai Jawan, Jai Kisan"

Destroy millions of acres of fertile soil of bharat with vikas, development and then shout "Bharat Mata Ki Jai".
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If farmers stop their supplies to cities they would collapse in one month........do you know why this has never happened in the past???.........it has never happened because the urban population runs the industrial system and controls the police and army.

How would city people feel if farmers arrive in cities one day to demolish them to create / reclaim land for agriculture???

Industrial governments will help farmers???.........Industrial governments cannot help anyone or anything in this world........Industrial governments have decimated millions of land and marine species.........Industrial governments have destroyed forests, rivers, oceans, atmosphere........Industrial governments have destroyed the whole planet in hundred years and in the end they are going to kill all humans on earth.
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Industrial governments are governments of urban people , by urban people , for urban people.

Urban people run corporations.

Industrial governments are governments of corporations , by corporations , for corporations.
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Hundreds of thousands of farmers have committed suicide in the last 25 years in India because they could not repay small loans of banks .........Thousands of rich industrialists have failed to return bank loans of billions of rupees........None of them has committed suicide........All of them are living a luxurious life.......Banks have not seized their assets........They have not been sent to jail.
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The food of millions of other species does not come from money........Millions of other species lived for millions of years without selling or buying food........Human species lived for hundreds of thousands of years without selling or buying food........Industrial society has created a criminal system where food comes from money........This has led to a tragic situation where the farmer who produces food is starving to death because he doesn't have money to buy food whereas the parasitic urban population which is not even producing food has grown obese from overeating because it has got tonnes of money to buy food.
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If industrial activity for production of thousands of consumer goods is not stopped immediately, the whole world is going to die from starvation and thirst in the coming years........Industry is destroying agriculture.......If industrial activity for production of thousands of consumer goods is not stopped immediately, there will be no agriculture of any kind left in this world.......There will be no industrial agriculture, no organic agriculture, no permaculture.......Every kind of agriculture will be destroyed.......Every method of food production will get destroyed.

People think science and technology is feeding people, Green revolution is providing food to people.......The reality is science and technology is going to destroy all food in the coming years........What is going to happen to food will be exactly like what has already happened to water........Science and technology invented diesel and electric pumps to take out ground water........For hundred years there was a lot of water........Now there is hardly any water left below the soil.

For hundred years river water was pumped to cities hundreds of kilometers away from the river.......Global warming has led to drastic shrinking of glaciers........Rivers are dying and turning into trickles.......What will you do with diesel and electric pumps when rivers will cease to exist???
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Industrial society is destroying agriculture by destroying fertile soil and by changing global weather with industrial activity.

Billions of acres of agricultural soil has been destroyed by industry.

Agriculture requires regularity of weather........It requires heat, cold and rain at the right time and in the right measure.

Global weather is regulated by Forest Cover, Ice Cover, Ocean Temperature and Atmospheric Temperature........Industrial activity has decimated Forest Cover.........Industrial activity has decimated Ice Cover / Glaciers........Oceans and the Atmosphere have been made warmer.........These changes have made the weather extreme, irregular and unpredictable........This has led to drastic increase in the intensity and frequency of Droughts, Floods, Storms, Cyclones, Periods of Extreme Heat and Cold........Agricultural production has already been affected by these changes........Agriculture is going to collapse completely in the near future.

Man has already decimated fish in the oceans with industrial fishing.

The land and the sea are the only two sources of food on earth.........Industrial man has destroyed both.
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You need water to drink.........You need water for irrigation / agriculture.

Industrial activity is melting and shrinking glaciers that give birth to snow fed rivers in this world.........Rivers that originate from springs and streams in mountains and forests are dying because industry has destroyed mountains and forests.........Most rivers will cease to exist very soon

Industrial society has already destroyed millions of ponds and lakes with construction industry and other industries........Groundwater reserves have already been depleted by diesel and electric pumps
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No Food.........No Water.

End of man on earth.
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You can never escape from chaos, madness and destruction once you have created extra jobs and professions.........Industrial society has done just that........Industrial society has created hundreds of extra and destructive professions for its urban population which is not producing food which was the main occupation for thousands of years before industrialization.
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For millions of years there was just one main activity / occupation on earth - "Searching for Food" / "Producing Food"..........Urban population of industrial society is the anomaly that is producing consumer goods and services.

For millions of years, both adults and the offspring of millions of animal species "searched for food".

For 1 million years in hunter_gatherer society both adults and children "searched for food".

For 10,000 years in agrarian society, most of the adults and children "produced food"

In industrial society (running on electricity and oil) which has only existed for 100 years, urban adults are producing consumer goods and services in industries and corporations..........Their children go to schools and universities where they learn how to produce and sell consumer goods in future.
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How can one species get food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services on a small planet which is just 40,000 km in circumference when millions of other species got only food from earth for millions of years???

Height of Insanity........Insanity raised to the power of Infinity.
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Food searching species did not destroy this planet in millions of years.
Food producing society destroyed very little environment in 10,000 years.
Consumer goods producing society has destroyed this planet in hundred years.
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Living in industrial society was not even an option.......Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.
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Man has spent more than 99.9% of his time on earth in non-industrial societies. Man lived in forests for hundreds of thousands of years........Man lived in villages in agrarian society for 10,000 years........Man has lived in industrial society running on electricity and oil for just about 100 years during which he has destroyed the entire planet.

If Urban Society stops its supplies to Rural Society it will live forever.

If Rural Society stops its supplies to Urban Society it will die within a month.

That is the worth of Urban Jobs, Consumer Goods, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP.
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Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth.
Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.

Stop Education.........Close down Universities.
Stop Urban Work..........Close down the Cities.
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People who gave you the virus are now pretending to save you with vaccine.........first spread covid-19 globally with airline industry, tourism industry, mega cities, railways, highways, expressways, automobiles.........and then start billion dollar vaccine industry.,

give cancer to millions of people by poisoning air, water, food with billions of tonnes of industrial carcinogens........then start billion dollar cancer treatment industry.

give diabetes, obesity, heart disease to billions of people by promoting fast food industry, processed food industry, packaged food industry and by replacing physical work with desk jobs..........and then start billion dollar treatment industry for diabetes, obesity, heart disease.

this is what industrial society is all about.

first create the problem.........then make money from the problem.
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Bring continents closer, countries closer, cities closer by promoting airline industry and then ask people to maintain social distancing.

Governments which did not maintain continent distancing, country distancing, city distancing are asking people to maintain social distancing.

It is ridiculous and farcical when industrial society talks about social distancing after promoting social crowding for hundred years.

Social distancing was an inherent feature of pre-industrial society.
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In a non-industrial society the virus would have remained in China and in case it spread outside China it would have spread at a fraction of the current rate and it would have infected a fraction of the continents, countries, cities and people infected today.
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Covid vaccine scams are going to dwarf all previous scams of this world..........Bribes and commissions of unimaginable amounts will be given and taken all over the world to get contracts and give contracts..

everyone is making money from the disease........testing labs, PPE manufacturers, masks and gloves manufacturers, ventilator and sanitizer manufacturers, oxygen cylinder and oxymeter manufacturers, drug manufacturers, vaccine manufacturers, hospital industry, insurance industry.

pre-industrial society had disease.
industrial society has disease industry.
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try to understand why all this madness is happening in industrial society..........You can never escape from chaos, madness and destruction once you have created extra jobs and professions.........Industrial society has done just that........Industrial society has created hundreds of extra and destructive professions for its urban population which is not producing food which was the main occupation for thousands of years before industrialization.
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For millions of years there was just one main activity / occupation on earth - "Searching for Food" / "Producing Food"..........Urban population of industrial society is the anomaly that is producing consumer goods and services.

For millions of years, both adults and the offspring of millions of animal species "searched for food".

For 1 million years in hunter_gatherer society both adults and children "searched for food"
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For 10,000 years in agrarian society, most of the adults and children "produced food"

In industrial society (running on electricity and oil) which has only existed for 100 years, urban adults are producing consumer goods and services in industries and corporations..........Their children go to schools and universities where they learn how to produce and sell consumer goods in future.
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Pretend to save some people from the virus while killing millions and millions of people with polluted air, car accidents, insecticides, pesticides, additives, preservatives, cigarette industry, liquor industry, cancer, diabetes, obesity, heart disease.

Pretend to save some people from the virus while ultimately killing all people on earth by destroying forests, rivers, oceans, atmosphere with vikas, development, industrialization.
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How can one species get food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services on a small planet which is just 40,000 km in circumference when millions of other species got only food from earth for millions of years???

Height of Insanity........Insanity raised to the power of Infinity.
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Living in industrial society was not even an option.......Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.......Humans lived in food searching society for hundreds of thousands of years.......In food producing society for about 10,000 years.......Consumer goods producing industrial society is the anomaly /aberration........Industrial society running on electricity and oil has existed for just about hundred years.......Duration of industrial society is so small that it is almost zero percent of total human existence on earth.
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Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth.
Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:56 pm 
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You are sitting inside your house which is on fire........99% of the house is already burnt........a doctor gives you vaccine and then both of you think you are safe and protected.........the planet is dying and gasping for last breath........forests, rivers, oceans, atmosphere have been destroyed.........millions of land and marine species have been decimated.........more than 99% collapse of planet has already happened.........human collapse will come with lightning speed now..........and people think vaccine will keep them safe and protected.
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Pretend to save some people from the virus while killing millions and millions of people with polluted air, car accidents, insecticides, pesticides, additives, preservatives, cigarette industry, liquor industry, cancer, diabetes, obesity, heart disease.

Pretend to save some people from the virus while ultimately killing all people on earth by destroying forests, rivers, oceans, atmosphere with progress, development, industrialization.
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Disease kills some people..........Destruction of environment by industrial activity will kill all people on earth .

disease did not destroy billions of acres of forests.........disease did not destroy rivers, oceans..........disease did not destroy the atmosphere..........disease did not generate billions of tonnes of plastic waste, chemical waste, gaseous waste, e-waste..........disease did not decimate millions of land and marine species.

hundred years of industrial activity has killed the planet.........not disease.
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Humans exist because of environment, not because of vaccine.

Do you have a vaccine to save environment???

where is the vaccine that can bring back billions of acres of destroyed forests.........where is the vaccine that can bring back millions of decimated species.........where is the vaccine that can bring back arctic ice........where is the vaccine that can remove billions of tonnes of plastic, chemical, gaseous, e-waste from earth.........where is the vaccine that can reverse climate change???


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