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Question for Ante: Would you say the narrator in the link expressed a welfarists view or a abolitionist view?

He doesn't condemn hunting, ante. Only the event displayed in the link. Have any thoughts therein upon this?

Question for all turkey hunters hereabouts: Who's done this sort of shooting?

I've never done anything like it.


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The fact is, less than seven percent of the U.S. population hunts. Notwithstanding, on federal land alone, hunters kill more than 200 million animals yearly - crippling, orphaning, and harassing millions more. Read more...

This is simply not true. Where from this number came about 7% of hunting population? Hunters kill animals, this is for sure. Death of any creature (organism is a part of life), the last tribute to the environment. Immortality of any species would be an environmental disaster. This is what some doctors dream about to make a quick buck now. Here, in Virginia, thousands of whitetail deer are shot every fall-winter hunting season, but their population does not decline; it is still on the increase. Many thousands are killed by cars. We should expand whitetail hunting. Even in city limits you cannot grow tomatoes, because of deer. You must put fences around you vegetable patch. Mother nature is abundant and it is productive. We are here to harvest some of nature products. Our hunting dogs evolved with us the natural way, just like other animals and plants and, therefore, they deserve protection like parts of biodiversity and culture. Hunting is a natural right of hunting dogs and their owners. I killed a rat in our barn yesterday. It was Rattus norvegicus, a city creature. How it got here? I guess someone caught it and gave it a ride in woods, "where it belongs", but the rat came to our place, looking for its natural habitat with people. I use kill traps. I do not consider it hunting, just pest control. By killing a rat I saved some other creatures and gave them more space to live a happy life. This is a game of life. I support Nature Conservancy and WWF, but I am a hunter and a meat eater. Why animal rightnicks try to impose their believes and feelings on the rest of us? This is their religion. They run forums, which are like closed sect, or party, secret meetings. I entered a few, but was banned, because those forums were not for discussions. They were for guiding their sect members.

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Accurate about what, Mr. Yates?


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Oh, Griz, I have read that book By Swan; it is very good.

I esepecialy liked the part where he dropped in on that ARA-get together. Gilligan was there, as I recall.

Swan tears most of the common ARA arguements up pretty good, I thought.


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