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Spammers have a large impact on a forum too. We have had as many as 40 here in a single day. If it were not for the safety delay a variety of spams, scams, porn, and complete gibberish would be visible most of the time. The other aspect is control of content. Some want a lot, some do not want any, but everyone wants their content to be accepted without question ..... one can over-moderate and under-moderate very easily trying to make everyone happy and in the process none are every really happy if it is done correctly.

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With such a detailed response, I just have to ask for more.

In this whole ban on animal testing for products sold in the EU, how does that work with products from other regions which are tested as drugs in those regions, but cosmetics in the EU? Are they banned for being tested or are they accepted for being tested as something other than a cosmetic?

To me it is a very important aspect of the real level of the "victory" being discussed.


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Cosmetic and Beauty Products
Cosmetic products are subject to legislative requirements in many countries, among which the European Union (EU) is considered the most active in regulatory development.
A cosmetic is generally defined as “Any substance or preparation for human use for the purpose of cleansing, beautifying or altering the appearance commonly to include personal toiletry products (such as shampoos and lotion), beauty products and fragrances.”

Certain products (e.g., anti-dandruff shampoo) that are classified as cosmetics in other countries (e.g., in the EU) may be regulated as Over-The-Counter (OTC) drugs (in the USA) or therapeutic goods (in Australia) or Quasi-Drugs (in Japan) or non-prescription drugs (in Canada). Although legislative requirements vary from country to country, most of the requirements can be generally grouped into the following categories:

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If ingredient A is used in a drug and tested on animals for the required toxicity determination under most legislations, can ingredient A then be used in a cosmetic product knowing it is safe because it was accepted safe as a drug ingredient? No "cosmetic ingredient" would have been tested since the tests were on a "drug ingredient" and all safety requirements would have been met for both uses.

Why or why not?

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