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Calm down and get a grip.

If the tree ring evidence is reliable(as an indicator of climate temperature) then the present warmish period is not exceptional.

If we are having an exceptional effect on the world's climate then either the tree ring data would show this or it is too unreliable to be used.

Without tree ring data there is a distinct lack of any "hockey stick" exceptional temperature change. With it there is no exceptional temperature change.

The obvious conclusion is that there is no exceptional temperature change going on. :-({|=


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I note your use of a key word 'Exceptional".

How exceptional does mankind have to be to cause serious, life-changing effects on the environment?

Indeed; your use of 'No exceptional' suggests even you believe at least effects are taking place: only not exceptional.

There's hope for you yet, Tim! O:)


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The current warmish period seems to be not exceptional and, according to the consensus, not a lot to worry about.

It may be the result of our industrial activity.

It may cause the world to get a bit warmer still.

That seems to be a generslly positive thing. More food, more rain, more life in general. Bad if you own a ski lodge.

We should not do vast damage to our selves by abandoning the wonderful fruits of our industry. There is nothing to worry about from CO2. There is a lot to worry about from the Maoist green/Comunist types who want to have some sort of cultural revolution.


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Boy, you are a head in the sand "I will not take my head out" type of denialist that does NOT belong at Envirolink. Shove it in your face and you still can't smell it, your own excrement. Flog yourself, kool aid drinker. What a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.
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Oh, I am so sorry flogger, yes CAGW to AETM is great for future humans and other living things>>>>>>>NOT!!!!
Read everything at the site above, then come back educated, goodbye.

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Johnny: come on now! That's a bit harsh! Let's play nice(If we can :twisted: )

Tim, at least, doesn't seem to be a 'it ain't heating at all' denigelical. I take him for a 'hot is good' denigelical.

The whole tired bit about the commies coming to get us is getting pretty silly, though....


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Gosh they do, you don't need a science degree to tell what the implications of those graphs are, perhaps that's why so much effort has gone into quashing them and silencing the scientists that are responsible for them.


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Tack this onto any reconstruction and you will get a hockey stick, which is why there is a problem with bashing the hockey stick graph.

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The warming is producing a ratio of about 7 or 10 to 1 warming record to cooling record. I've seen the numbers being thrown around a lot lately. That is a sure sign of a warming world when this happpens year after year.

Interesting. The warming isn't exceptional but its a good thing. Is this a contradiction. Or are you really saying exceptionally warm is good.

To hell with the polar bears, lets get that oil in the artic.


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