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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Members of the House Science Committee who have no concept of science ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/0 ... d%3D216577


Congressman Paul Broun (R-Ga.) said last week that evolution and the big bang theory are "lies straight from the pit of Hell."

"God's word is true. I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell," said Broun, who is an MD. "It's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior."

He continued:

"You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I've found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I don't believe that the earth's but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That's what the Bible says."

According to NBC News, Broun's comments were part of a larger speech given at the 2012 Sportsman's Banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Georgia on September 27th. A clip of the video was distributed by the The Bridge Project, a liberal watchdog group.

Broun is a high-ranking member of the House Science Committee, of which Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) is also a member.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:05 am 
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The USA does look a bit nuts from over here.


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We've got bigger fish to fry.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:52 pm 
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We've got bigger fish to fry.


Hard to do anything positive when the leadership illustrates ignorance at this level, including frying those bigger fish?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:48 am 
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Wayne Stollings wrote:
Fosgate wrote:
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We've got bigger fish to fry.


Hard to do anything positive when the leadership illustrates ignorance at this level, including frying those bigger fish?


Sure, hard to do anything when it comes to science that the person rejects. Anything at all with regard to leading/governing, not necessarily so much.

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So that shows the problem with the US, the ignorant people are electing ignorant leaders who sidetrack those who actually have a clue about science, what can be done, and what needs to be done. The impact upon the education of the American youth will be a hard hit on the country as a whole in the future.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:06 am 
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So that shows the problem with the US, the ignorant people are electing ignorant leaders who sidetrack those who actually have a clue about science, what can be done, and what needs to be done.


Informed leaders elected by an ignorant populace in a representative republic? The problem is the form of government?

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That's because ignorant citizens don't care about education. If the proponents of, say, science, fail to effectively demonstrate how it is beneficial (i.e. sell it) to those who know nothing of it, then it doesn't matter how important its proponents think it is.

No, what's wrong with the US is folks thinking that what they think is important should be important to everyone else.

This leads me to my next question--how do we educate the uneducable?

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That Braun is a piece of work. Apparently got on the science committee because he is an MD and has a degree in chemistry also.
With his ridiculous statements he should be kicked off the committee.
On his web site he sounds like a good fiscal conservative and NRA/Gun Rights member.
His speech was that of a lunatic uneducated buffoon. It is hard to reconcile his apparent views with the education he has had. His speech reflected poorly on himself and tends to rub on other conservatives who may or may not have ridiculous views.

From Wayne: "So that shows the problem with the US, the ignorant people are electing ignorant leaders who sidetrack those who actually have a clue about science, what can be done, and what needs to be done. The impact upon the education of the American youth will be a hard hit on the country as a whole in the future."
It really started with unequal qualifications in college testing to favor blacks in the mid 70s on, and the same for teaching and other jobs(like getting into the airlines). Also, since 1965, over-immigration has favored low IQ over-breeders, who make up a disproportionate amount of the classroom, dumbing down the curve. The average US IQ has fallen to 96, which is the lowest necessary to reach a journeyman trade level in 10 years, and it continues to fall. You can see why by watching the video from numbersusa, "Gumballs".

From Roy Beck of NumbersUSA, the anti-US overpopulation group:
DEAR FRIENDS,

There were a lot of revelations and nuances about immigration in last night's second presidential candidates debate. I have a lot of comments on a range of them in my blog at:

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusa ... ation.html

But this is what I think was the most important view we got from the heated exchange between the candidates on immigration:

Gov. Romney sent a powerful positive message to unemployed American workers in construction, service and manufacturing by refusing to budge from his long-term insistence on strong enforcement to get illegal immigrants out of U.S. jobs.{very good!}

He did so in the face of a tough audience question about "productive" illegal immigrants and in response to attacks by Pres. Obama about Romney's support for "self-deportation."

Romney noted two primary ways that a country can enforce its immigration rules and said he rejects the one that involves mass roundups and mass deportations. Instead, he said, he would take away the jobs and benefits magnets and allow most illegal immigrants to come to their own conclusion on moving back to their home countries.

Obama, unfortunately, indicated that he opposes both enforcement options, except for deporting criminals who are "hurting the community."{IOW he is not upholding his Oath and committing felony encouragement}

Although Obama touted success in controlling illegal border crossings, he promised nothing to even discourage millions of tourists and other visitors from over-staying their visas and competing against Americans for jobs.

>Obama inaccurately described an Arizona law as authorizing police to stop people for looking like they might be illegal immigrants and he accused Romney of saying that should be a model for the nation.{IOW he lied}

Romney disavowed any such position -- something independent fact-checkers have been confirming for months -- but said he does believe the model for the nation is the Arizona law that requires all employers to use E-Verify, a federal system that ensures that jobs go to Americans and legal immigrants.

Less than 5% of the seven million illegal immigrant workers are in agriculture. Most are less-educated and in construction, manufacturing, service and transportation occupations. The majority of the 20 million Americans who can't find a full-time job are also less-educated and looking for jobs in those same occupations."
Actually it is more like 20 million working illegals, mostly under the table for felony encouragers. As far as the company that does Romney's investments for him---Obama has a similar company overseeing his $2 million in investments, much of which is also in China, which Romney pointed out. At least Romney is not a multiple felon like Obama!!! R&R have got our votes! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:25 pm 
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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
That Braun is a piece of work.


Never understood why folks walk and talk the way he does. Faith and science are, IMO, easy to reconcile.

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And then there's this guy

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... nvestments

On the campaign trail, Mitt Romney rips President Obama's policy on China and talks tough against the rising global power. "We're going to crack down on China," he said at a recent event in Ohio. "They've stolen our jobs; that's gotta stop." But according to Romney's recent tax returns, between 2008 and 2011 Romney invested more than a half million dollars in the stocks of 10 Chinese companies—including firms that embezzled, partnered with Iran, and stole US intellectual property.


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And then there's this guy

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... nvestments

On the campaign trail, Mitt Romney rips President Obama's policy on China and talks tough against the rising global power. "We're going to crack down on China," he said at a recent event in Ohio. "They've stolen our jobs; that's gotta stop." But according to Romney's recent tax returns, between 2008 and 2011 Romney invested more than a half million dollars in the stocks of 10 Chinese companies—including firms that embezzled, partnered with Iran, and stole US intellectual property.


Wow, a politician that ......lies?

Go figure.

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Fosgate wrote:
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We've got bigger fish to fry.


Like robbing the middle east of its oil?

Caveman Siegfried points to some black fluid in the ground. 'You know what Millenchella' he said,' this is gonna cause alot of people to die and a few to get really rich'. Millenchilla goes for a spin on his comical wheel thinking Siegfried is daft.

The deeper one goes the greater the connection yet one has to surface for breath and the dis-connection becomes more apparent as one gasps for breath and in amazement.

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Like robbing the middle east of its oil?

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Pure rubbish. The US first explored those fields. Invented and brought the equipment to get at the oil in the middle east. The governments of the middle east were quick to nationalize the oil fields, and now they sell us oil and we buy the oil.

Expecting a politician to be a straight shooter is kind of like asking the Huffington Post to do the same. Ain't gonna happen.

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They struck a deal with Saudi Arabia: require only the dollar for trade and invest profits in the U.S., and the U.S. in turn provides military support.

That can be seen in light of this:

"The Road to World War 3"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4


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