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tl;dq

Souls don't exist.


Now I don't necessarily believe in right other than the ones we grant ourselves and others. However, through realism

Could we stop suffering animals caused by other animals? Perhaps. But as of the moment, it simply isn't feasible. There will be too much research and money needed.

Humans can stop suffering of animals by getting rid of factory farming, eating more plants, and spreading the word out.

And even though plants may be able to have negative stimuli, you still need to show that they are self aware.

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Animal protection is NOT the most meaningful cause---reducing human population to long term sustainable level is.
As far as proof of a soul. People lose a small amount of weight at the time of death, I have heard.
In any event, I personally believe everything has a soul to a certain extent, even rocks. :mrgreen:

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If you don't know who higher vertebrate stimulus response is deserving of increased consideration there's no need to respond.

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cute kills logic. If I told you a vicious killer was causing the extinction of countless species including killing for fun and that there was a cheap way of preventing the rapid growth in the population of this species you might be in favor of killing some of these killers when they are young before they do damage. When I inform you that this method is called "clubbing baby seals" it suddenly seems like a different scenario... but it is not.


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one of the most destructive invasive species that has caused more species extinction then humans is the animal shown in this YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQHCZcSRCOQ


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My point is to say that "higher stimulus response" makes little difference when you are trying to save animals from suffering. Club some seals, poison stray cats, and please PLEASE get your vasectomy or tubes tied to control the worst blight to the earth ever.


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